Don't mean to intrude on a newly revived discussion between you both. Just curious.....is there another option? No VB, C#, Java............. How about Kaffe....I hadn't heard about it. I like Perl but its not really suitable for the same type of things. What is a good alternative that won't bite you in the butt down the road?
At 05:15 PM 8/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Just give Sun the chance. Do you honestly think that Sun wouldn't lock >customers into their products, services, and protocols if given the >opportunity? It's a natural desire. Microsoft too was an underdog, >especially in the mid-90's when NT was relatively new and just beginning to >push into businesses. There was a large user and system administrator >community huddled around Windows since Microsoft was trying to market a >product that would reduce cost, and, so they were told, headaches. Sound >familiar? > >Java is basically open with a few gotchas. So is .NET. They can both get you. > >I think we have had this argument before, but about Apple. My point then as >now is that just because a company is an underdog when it comes to a >particular market or issue doesn't make it benign. > >At 04:57 PM 8/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >You are a funny guy. > > > >Sun can't afford to lock it down as long as M$ remains the 800lb gorilla. > >I don't see M$ losing its status any time soon. > > > >Besides, they would have to lock up the openly available JavaVM spec, which > >would pizz off just a few (most) Java developers. There's always the > >clean-room developed Kaffe VM ... > > > >So, comparing VB to Java is not a good comparison at all. Sun relies on a > >community-developed Java spec. VB (and most M$ tools it seems) are designed > >by hordes of marketing monkeys: "How do we fight Java...?" "I know, let's > >develop an imitation called C#! Get it? C-Sharp! Like the musical notation! > >Isn't that cool?" > > > >M$ lost their geek cachet a looong time ago. > > > >John Hebert > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dustin Puryear > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: 8/27/03 3:58 PM > >Subject: RE: [brlug-general] Microsoft Windows: Insecure by Design > > > >At 08:49 AM 8/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >really learn how server computing worked for myself, instead of > >gleaning > > >clues from M$ documentation. > > > > > >And to be perfectly honest and self-incriminating, I am sending this > >message > > >from a M$ Windoze XP laptop, because my job requires it (VB > >programming). > > >However, my company is moving away from M$ and towards Java (whee!). It > > > >Until Sun begins locking down.. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >General mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > >--- >Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Puryear Information Technology, LLC <http://www.puryear-it.com> >Providing expertise in the management, integration, and >security of Windows and UNIX systems, networks, and applications. > > >_______________________________________________ >General mailing list >[email protected] >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
