I'll keep it short, as I've been long winded enough for one day already :) but in IMO X11/Xfree86 is getting a little long in the tooth. It did what it intended, providing a standard windowing library, but hardware has long surpassed X11/Xfree86's capabilities. We need some alternatives that take real advantage of what new graphics hardware can offer: Imagine a desktop that is entirely SVG driven ...(http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/03/02/03/129215.shtml?tid=152&; tid=106&tid=131). Imagine a standard GUI where the desktop widget set is abstracted enough to let graphic designers create integrated desktop animations easily (like the GUI's in "Lain"). That is the future direction that the Linux desktop should be moving in.
I know of a couple of alternative projects to X11/Xfree86: http://www.fresco.org/ - formerly called Berlin http://www.fresco.org/screenshots.html http://www.xouvert.org/ - fork of X11 Anybody know of others? John Hebert -----Original Message----- From: Challison To: [email protected] Sent: 8/29/03 11:10 AM Subject: Re: SCO will set us back, but ... was RE: [brlug-general] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO What is everyones opinion of X11? My personal opinion is that it was designed to allow the running of apps on one machine while viewing the running program on a separate machine......I think thats right. It does not seem to have been developed to offer the best desktop experience and I find myself wondering what there isn't an open source equivalent to the OS X desktop.....what is it called today, panther, jaguar or something like that. I'd love to hear your opinions on this matter.....and please feel free to correct me where I am wrong, I didn't put any effort into trying to make sure that I was right. cha At 09:30 AM 8/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Very good point and entirely correct. However, this is how the big IT >companies play the game. I like to think of the SCO lawsuit as the Linux >community's "rite of passage". Kinda like a hazing incident that got a >little rough. ;) > >It is ultimately proof that Linux is hitting the big time. Is the SCO >lawsuit any more ridiculous than Jim Allchin (M$ VP) accusing Linux of being >"un-American" (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5015) or >Ballmer's statement that "Linux is Communist" >(http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/12266.html)? The big difference is >that the media covering the IT industry are stupid when it comes to issues >of kernel source code, free software licenses, and the convulted UNIX >lineage; admittedly an obscure subject. But, because the source code is >free, anyone can find out the truth for themselves. > >The SCO lawsuit will set us back; how long, I don't know. But we will emerge >from this little skirmish much stronger and ready for the larger battle to >come: the desktop. I personally think that X11 desktop themes form the basis >for business plans for small independent software and graphic design shops. >And the prospect of other windowing systems for Linux desktops is even more >exciting. > >And If I were Linus, I would be wary of buses bearing a Micro$oft logo. ;) > >John Hebert > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brad N Bendily >To: brlug >Sent: 8/29/03 9:06 AM >Subject: Re: [brlug-general] No plans to sue Linux companies, says SCO > > >On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Nashid Hasan wrote: > > > "The SCO Group said today it had never planned to sue any Linux >companies, had > > no concrete plans to sue anyone and also no current plans to take a > > commercial Linux customer to court." > > > > http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/08/29/1062050642514.html > > > >They don't need to sue any one. They've already created enough FUD that >could set Linux adoption back a couple of years. > >Hopefully the news that SCO is/was full of crap will be just as big as >the >news that SCO owned copyrighted code. >If this message doesn't get blasted to every media outlet in the world >then SCO will have accomplished just what Microsoft wanted them to. > >BB > > >_______________________________________________ >General mailing list >[email protected] >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > >_______________________________________________ >General mailing list >[email protected] >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
