I agree. I really think the only real solution is a Linux server with three
interfaces: DMZ/wireless, public, and private. Any VPN would terminate at
the Linux server. I am totally open to being wrong on this though. If anyone
has a solution that doesn't require any hardware changes let me know,
thanks!

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From: "-ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Fw: [V3] IPSEC over NAT.. Fun! {01}


>
> I think Netscreen support is right.  The second the NAT device changes
> one of the IP headers, you defeat the purpose of IPSec!  Some of the
> small NAT routers support "VPN Pass-through", which allows only one VPN
> client on the private network to work through NAT.
>
> The problem is vendors think VPN means "enterprise" and that means $$$$.
> I think Cisco does IPSEC/NAT by encapsulating IPSEC in UDP products. You'd
> have to use the Cisco client though.  And you don't say 'Cisco' and 'save
> money' in the same sentence.  Not sure of any other products that do this.
>
> If he wants to save money, Linux/BSD gateway is the best way to go.
> There are ways to get around the most commonly failing PC components. But
> even that might be a chore to setup since NAT and IPSEC just don't get
> along.

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