I was also trying to dl some mp3 ringtones.  Looks like the cable's the way
to go, me and Sonja both have the same phone so at least the cable will get
double duty.  The only reason we have the internet is because it came in a
package (along with MMS and SMS messages).  Being a programmer, I just had
to play with it :-)

James

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Terry Stockdale
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] wap/wml problem

I did a little wml so I could download some edited mp3's for ringtones.  I
dropped the effort because CINGULAR CHARGES WAY, WAY TOO MUCH PER KILOBYTE!
I also dropped the wireless internet service period, as I found no worthwile
use for it.  If you can't read html, and have to have the
scarcer-than-hen's-teeth wml, forget it.

If all you want to do is move pictures and mp3s to the phone, a data cable
and the Motorola software is a lot cheaper than the Cingular wireless
internet service at $.01/kb.

I had pushed mine up on my webhost, so I wasn't dealing with Cox's blockade
on port 80  (for "residential" service) servers.

The problem is interesting.  Try these two.
http://terrystockdale.com/test/test.php
http://terrystockdale.com/test/test.wml

In WinXP, IE 6 and Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3 want to receive the .wml as a
file, while Opera 7.53 receives it and shows the code itself (and says it
has an error in line 2).


After fighting wml unsuccessfully, I tried outputting the same code via a 
php file.  Success.   All three browsers receive the .php file as a good 
page.  Interestingly, the wml file is simply the "source code" written by
the php file.

Your wml file comes up the same way in IE6, Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3 and Opera
7.53 that mine does.

Bottom line -- it's probably a server problem -- the problem is probably in
the header and not in the document itself.

Terry

At 01:34 PM 8/11/2004, James wrote:
>Anyone have any experience developing wap/wml pages (especially for use 
>with a Cingular phone)?
>
>I'm having a problem with running a simple "Hello World" test on a 
>machine with apache on port 9080, various emulators on the web seem to 
>be able to hit it and navigate it fine.  My phone however kicks a "502: bad
gateway"
>error when I try to hit it - the phone can hit other "3rd party" (non 
>Cingular sites) fine (all of these are running on port 80 however).  I 
>don't know if wap can only run over port 80, or if Cingular locks you 
>down to port 80. I haven't seen any docs that says one way or the other 
>(unless I overlooked something).
>
>This is my first attempt at wap and it's entirely possible I'm way off 
>base on what the problem is...
>
>I did find a problem with the mime types in apache, fixed that and all 
>the emulators that were initially failing seemed to like the page after
that.
>
>The page is at: http://thanatos.kuhns-la.com:9080/wmltest/index.wml
>
>Any ideas anyone?
>
>James

Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA
    http://www.terrystockdale.com     


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