I gave up completely on the wap/wml issue (too much of a pain and too expensive).
I did however find a cheaper workaround for ringtone downloads (if you don't have the data cable) such that you're not charged by kb (at least on Cingular) - if you have MMS on your plan/phone you can send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the MP3 as an attachment (msg must be in plain text). This way you're only charged for 1 MMS msg (either comes out of your pool or if you pay as you go its $0.25). Found this on their developers web site and verified with tech/billing support. Tested it yesterday and it worked but they're having a service outage with the mms.mycingular.com servers right now and don't know when they'll be back up. The mobile.mycingular.com servers seem to be working fine right now (they're used to send SMS text messages to phones - address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - no attachment or it will bounce). >From what I was gathering this is pretty standard for all carriers (billing may be different, some carriers charge air time and/or kb for MMS). Don't know the servers for other carriers. This is the way the carriers are supposed to send MMS/SMS from a phone on one carrier to a phone on a different carrier and to allow people without SMS/MMS capabilities send messages to people who do (the various web text msg to phone things). If anyone's interested, I wrote a perl script that grabs a message from stdin, cracks it open, looks for attachments, and then relays it to either the mms.mycingular.com or mobile.mycingular.com address based on whether or not it has attachments (requires a few MIME modules - I REALLY didn't feel like parsing the messages myself). I created a special address in my email domain and added this script to its dot-qmail file. That way people don't have to remember the ugly address or whether or not they need to send to mms or mobile. I agree with Terry, the cable is still the best approach for ringtones/pictures - ours should be here next week. The email seems like a better approach when you need to get something from someone who can't send MMS or you don't have the cable with you. James -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Stockdale Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 7:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [brlug-general] wap/wml problem You want a copy of my php file? Terry At 06:28 PM 8/11/2004, you wrote: >I was also trying to dl some mp3 ringtones. Looks like the cable's the >way to go, me and Sonja both have the same phone so at least the cable >will get double duty. The only reason we have the internet is because >it came in a package (along with MMS and SMS messages). Being a >programmer, I just had to play with it :-) > >James > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Terry Stockdale >Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:02 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [brlug-general] wap/wml problem > >I did a little wml so I could download some edited mp3's for ringtones. >I dropped the effort because CINGULAR CHARGES WAY, WAY TOO MUCH PER KILOBYTE! >I also dropped the wireless internet service period, as I found no >worthwile use for it. If you can't read html, and have to have the >scarcer-than-hen's-teeth wml, forget it. > >If all you want to do is move pictures and mp3s to the phone, a data >cable and the Motorola software is a lot cheaper than the Cingular >wireless internet service at $.01/kb. > >I had pushed mine up on my webhost, so I wasn't dealing with Cox's >blockade on port 80 (for "residential" service) servers. > >The problem is interesting. Try these two. >http://terrystockdale.com/test/test.php >http://terrystockdale.com/test/test.wml > >In WinXP, IE 6 and Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3 want to receive the .wml as a >file, while Opera 7.53 receives it and shows the code itself (and says >it has an error in line 2). > > >After fighting wml unsuccessfully, I tried outputting the same code via a >php file. Success. All three browsers receive the .php file as a good >page. Interestingly, the wml file is simply the "source code" written >by the php file. > >Your wml file comes up the same way in IE6, Mozilla Firefox 0.9.3 and >Opera >7.53 that mine does. > >Bottom line -- it's probably a server problem -- the problem is >probably in the header and not in the document itself. > >Terry > >At 01:34 PM 8/11/2004, James wrote: > >Anyone have any experience developing wap/wml pages (especially for > >use with a Cingular phone)? > > > >I'm having a problem with running a simple "Hello World" test on a > >machine with apache on port 9080, various emulators on the web seem > >to be able to hit it and navigate it fine. My phone however kicks a > >"502: bad >gateway" > >error when I try to hit it - the phone can hit other "3rd party" (non > >Cingular sites) fine (all of these are running on port 80 however). > >I don't know if wap can only run over port 80, or if Cingular locks > >you down to port 80. I haven't seen any docs that says one way or the > >other (unless I overlooked something). > > > >This is my first attempt at wap and it's entirely possible I'm way > >off base on what the problem is... > > > >I did find a problem with the mime types in apache, fixed that and > >all the emulators that were initially failing seemed to like the page > >after >that. > > > >The page is at: http://thanatos.kuhns-la.com:9080/wmltest/index.wml > > > >Any ideas anyone? > > > >James -- Terry Stockdale -- Baton Rouge, LA http://www.terrystockdale.com _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
