Will Hill wrote:

>That's a joke, right?
>
It's not a joke.  An 850 Mhz Pentium III is 6-year old hardware.  It 
predated the actual Windows XP OS by 2 years. 

>"just fine" must be an awfully bloated program.  With careful package 
>selection, I can run Debian Sarge on a 133 MHz P1 with 24MB of RAM.
>
Congratulations.  You win the "I can, but why would I want to" award. 
Hardly anyone uses 13 year old hardware.  I have inherited so many boxes 
that my slowest one is a 1 Ghz Athlon and it is not even being used.  I 
assume that just about everyone on this LUG is also a  PC Tech for their 
family + friends.

>  My main 
>computer is a 233MHz PII laptop with 196MB of RAM and Sarge runs it well.  I 
>write "complex" technical papers with KWord and can run Open Office if 
>needed.  
>

I've tried running OpenOffice on twice to 3x the hardware you have 
(Celeron 533 with 192 MB of RAM) and I consider it unusable.  Your 
definition of "unusable" and mine seem to be vastly different. 

>Gnumeric does spreadsheets, grace does publish quality graphs, 
>inkscape, gimp and friends do excellent illustrations and image manipulation.  
>  
>
Gimp takes about 30 seconds to even start on a 3Ghz Pentium 4.  I can't 
imagine how it would run on a PII-233.

>At the same time, Konqueror and Kontact provide first class browsing, email 
>and personal information management.  As of the last SIG, it also does 
>network, sftp and m3u, aware music playing through noatum and movie play by 
>xine or xanim.  
>
Noatun is a command line music player, incidentally. Fire up a modern 
desktop environment(GNOME) and a modern video player (TOTEM)  and let me 
know how that runs.

>Every now and then, I get to compile a little fortran on it.  
>I can run almost all of these applications at the same time using the 
>Enlightenment window manager with 18 screens from on 3 virtual desktops.  
>70MB Power Points in Open Office are slow, but the rest will run without 
>skipping my music much.  My 1.4GHz Athlon is faster and I'll actually notice  
>when encoding music and playing games.  What amazing thing does "just fine" 
>provide XP users, a spell check?
>  
>
Just stick with "I hate Windows because it isn't free".  That's the only 
argument against that actually holds water.  I'm sick of this LUG 
mindlessly bashing Microsoft instead of promoting its own product.  It's 
a lot like the Democratic party in that aspect.

>On Friday 05 August 2005 11:07 am, Andrew Baudouin wrote:
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>>XP runs just fine on a P3-850 w/256MB Ram.
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Since Socket A manufacturing has been stopped, I'm not surprised that 
the older inventory would get more expensive.  Especially if that 
particular price is for a retail processor, as I'm sure stock is 
dwindling at this point.


Jory A. Pratt wrote:

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>>Price watch lists a 1.1 for $51 - I've never ordered from that
>>particular company, but the reviews are fairly good.
>>I was surprised.  Last time I looked I saw a 1.5 for about $35.  Does
>>the processor market fluctuate as much as the memory market?  Memory is
>>fairly cheap right now.  Maybe when memory is cheap, cpus are
>>expensive?  Anyone have an opinion?
>>Michael
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>       Your wanting an older processor usually cheaper to find a basket case
>machine and take it from there. Older proccessors are like memory tho,
>as the new stuff is getting cheaper the older stuff is getting more
>exspensive. Almost seems like a way to force people to keep a sum what
>decent system does it now?
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>Anarch
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