I can't be bothered to go and dig out the code to verify this but the CRLF 
predates CP/M by many years - I'm sure that I saw it in RT-11 and RSX11-M code 
and, when it comes down to it, the CP/M internals bear more than a passing 
resemblance to earlier operating systems.
 
Regards
Edmund Cramp
--
  I thought that the rule was that the first person to quote Wikipedia lost the 
argument?




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Baudouin
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] I don't see this very often, is it still a problem?


The short answer is because CP/M used a <CR><LF> and all Microsoft operating 
systems are based on the clone of CP/M bought by Gates for $50K.

Spending 5 minutes on wikipedia would answer your question, but it would not 
stop you from hating Microsoft.


On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:30 PM, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here is a funny rant:

http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=argh_microsoft_notepad_crlf_argh&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

A couple of years ago, I realized that a whole generation has grown up without
ever having to use a typewriter.  A classmate was complaining that he always
hit the Caps Lock key and wondered aloud why it was where it was.  I
explained to him the mechanics of manual typewriters,  He already understood
human inertia.

So why was it that M$ screwed up line feeds?  Was it because they did not have
printcap and had to rely on human beings to keep early printers to keep from
printing at the end of carriage?  Why have they not fixed this when every
modern print system works without it?  GNU/Linux editors, right down to vim,
have been able to deal with Notepad's broken output transparently for years.
Does M$ enjoy their perversion?  Are they still at war with commercial Unix?
Why does Penguin Pete care?

Is there something else that I missed when talking to my classmate?  I almost
never hit the caps lock by mistake.  I could attribute this to my model M
keyboard, but they tiny keys of my X30 Thinkpad are not a problem either.  In
fact, no keyboard has done this to me.  Do Windows users find themselves
reaching for the tab button often?  Why is the caps lock button a problem to
so many people?

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