Ah, thanks. That's pretty cool.

Dustin Puryear wrote:
> iPhoney is apparently a way to test out how an app will look on the iPhone:
>
> http://marketcircle.com/iphoney/
> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/21/iphoney-iphone-web-simulator/
>
> I don't get how Petri is using the term though. Maybe he is emulating an
> iPhone on his Palm Pilot? ;)
>
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> Tim Fournet wrote:
>   
>> What is this "iPhoney" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a device. At 
>> first I thought you just made a typo when you meant "iPhone" but you 
>> keep doing it, so it must be a different product
>>
>>
>>
>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>     
>>> To clarify.......  
>>> I did not use Amarok to make the tones.....   Normal audio command line 
>>> tools would do, or iTunes itself.
>>>
>>> To transfer the tones into the iPhoney, that is the difficult part 
>>> without iTunes. The whole scheme is designed so that average user go buy 
>>> a song from Apple, then selects part of the song as ringtone, then buys 
>>> that again. So you have to pay apple twice.
>>>
>>> petri
>>>
>>> Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> yes....  That is easy.....  I made ringtones for iPhoney before it was
>>>> released.
>>>> NOT using the iTunes is the key part for the process.
>>>>
>>>> There are very cumbersome instructions on the web about how to do it via
>>>> Amarok, but that only works for pwned devices, if correctly detected.
>>>>
>>>> Petri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tim Fournet wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Also, as another member of this list showed me, you can easily convert 
>>>>> any mp3 into a ringtone using iTunes, just a couple renaming tricks and 
>>>>> dropping into the right folders. I don't have the exact steps, but he 
>>>>> may want to chime in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nashid Hasan wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> All the free ringtones you want for iphone at http://audiko.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Nash
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/29/08 9:05 AM, "Petri Laihonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     There is potential with that device, if it would work....just lots of
>>>>>>     work..... ATT wireless infrastructure also needs to step up to match
>>>>>>     their claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Are the RDP apps free, or does one have to pay "taxes" to apple like
>>>>>>     with every turn you make on the street?
>>>>>>     If they are free, where did you found them? Especially I may be
>>>>>>     interested about connecting to windows server via ssh tunnel. With
>>>>>>     Nokia
>>>>>>     smartphones, you have been able to do that for
>>>>>>     years.....unfortunately I
>>>>>>     don't have one anymore.....  I wore one out in 5 years.... and got
>>>>>>     sent
>>>>>>     this one to replace it.....  bad trade overall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Another drawback with FW2.0 for me was that now I can not hear it
>>>>>>     ringing anymore......   Upon a call, first thing I hear, if at all, 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>     the vibrating noise against the table, then perhaps a bit of ringing
>>>>>>     sound when concentrating to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     As a mobile content provider, it is not too great either.....  I have
>>>>>>     created a method where I can provide wallpapers to non-pwned
>>>>>>     iPhone (Now
>>>>>>     that Safari is partially fixed in FW2), but I doubt Apple will
>>>>>>     never let
>>>>>>     third parties to provide ringtones. I can not expect every customer 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>     know how to pwn their iPhoneys....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Petri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Tim Fournet wrote:
>>>>>>     > I'm liking my iPhone, especially with 2.0 firmware. I've got
>>>>>>     push/pull
>>>>>>     > contacts/email/calendar with Zimbra, and it's amazing. I can use 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>     > iPhone take a photo of someone for their phone book entry, and
>>>>>>     watch as
>>>>>>     > it pops up on the web interface within about 3 seconds. There are
>>>>>>     > finally some decent SSH and RDP apps as well.
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > On my work desk, I've got Fedora 9, Vista, and an IGEL thin client
>>>>>>     > running Linux
>>>>>>     > At home, I've got Vista for games (TF2) and a Fedora laptop for
>>>>>>     > email/surfing/SSHing
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>     > Petri Laihonen wrote:
>>>>>>     >  
>>>>>>     >> Yes...
>>>>>>     >> I have that iPhoney too, but I find it sooo.... paperweight with
>>>>>>     sexy
>>>>>>     >> UI. Extremely crippled thingy.... Luckily I did not have to pay
>>>>>>     for it.
>>>>>>     >> Now, after upgrading to the firmware 2.x.x, the mail application
>>>>>>     crashes
>>>>>>     >> every time.....  Apple seems to care none, which is their normal
>>>>>>     >> policy.  So  I need to pwn it to be able to fix the mail app.
>>>>>>     "Hackers"
>>>>>>     >> have posted instructions to the fix about 1.5 months ago...  
>>>>>>     >> Unfortunately there is no Linux based pwn tool, and trying to
>>>>>>     connect
>>>>>>     >> and manage the phoney via windows in virtual machine simply does 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>     >> work. (Its detected and that's all, no real connection can be
>>>>>>     established.)
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >> Petri
>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>     >> Shannon Roddy wrote:
>>>>>>     >>  
>>>>>>     >>    
>>>>>>     >>> Laptop: OSS with ubuntu/vmware.  XP only when absolutely
>>>>>>     >>> necessary,which is maybe twice a month.
>>>>>>     >>> Home: ubuntu
>>>>>>     >>> Work: ubuntu/solaris 10
>>>>>>     >>> Cell:  read the sig below.  ;-)
>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>     >>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>     >>> On Aug 28, 2008, at 15:27, willhill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>     >>>  
>>>>>>     >>>    
>>>>>>     >>>      
>>>>>>     >>>> What is your primary desktop OS?
>>>>>>     >>>> 1.  At home
>>>>>>     >>>> 2.  At work
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