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On Mar 4, 2010, at 5:35 PM, -ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > I always goofed off in civics and history class, so I had to goto > WIkipedia. > > Enumerated powers, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the US > Constitution > states Congress has the power: > > To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several > states, > and with the Indian tribes; > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Enumerated_powers > > How does deciding who a company can trade with *NOT* fall under > regulating > commerce with foreign nations? > > ray > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote: > >> The Constitution enumerates all the powers of the government. >> Deciding who a company can trade with isn't one of them. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of -ray >> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:30 PM >> To: '[email protected]' >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights >> >> >> I don't think it is unlawful or unconstitutional for the government >> to forbid an American company, say Northrop Grumman, from doing any >> business with a foreign company, say Iran. For obvious reasons. >> >> You can do business with China though. Then they'll do business >> with Iran. >> >> Oh wait. When you say overlords, did you mean our Chinese >> overlords? :) >> >> ray >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote: >> >>> The majority of what our overlords do is unlawful. Positive law >>> isn't legit if it violates the Constitution. >>> >>> >>> Ryan McCain >>> Northrop Grumman Corporation >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Phone: 225.505.3832 >>> >>> Registered Linux User #364609 >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Dustin Puryear >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:28 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights >>> >>> Do you mean they have no moral or legal authority? They certainly >>> have the legal authority (e.g., Cuba, munitions). >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active >>> Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and >>> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Ryan McCain >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:19 PM >>> To: '[email protected]' >>> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights >>> >>> Our government has 0 authority to tell private companies who their >>> customers can and cannot be. >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:48:31 -0600 >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights Now, this may >>> be a good idea: >>> >>> http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_hu >>> man_rights_bill.html >>> >>> The basic idea: The law "would impose criminal or civil penalties >>> on U.S. Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign >>> governments and violate human rights." >>> >>> Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US >>> companies from competing in markets like China, which are huge. So >>> would this put our companies at a long-term disadvantage? >>> >>> Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company >>> that operates in the US. >>> >>> --- >>> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ >>> Active >>> Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and >>> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >>> >>> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >>> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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