Here's a good writeup on this.... http://www.bu.edu/rbarnett/Original.htm
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of -ray Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:36 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights I always goofed off in civics and history class, so I had to goto WIkipedia. Enumerated powers, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the US Constitution states Congress has the power: To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Enumerated_powers How does deciding who a company can trade with *NOT* fall under regulating commerce with foreign nations? ray On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote: > The Constitution enumerates all the powers of the government. Deciding who a > company can trade with isn't one of them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of -ray > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 4:30 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights > > > I don't think it is unlawful or unconstitutional for the government to forbid > an American company, say Northrop Grumman, from doing any business with a > foreign company, say Iran. For obvious reasons. > > You can do business with China though. Then they'll do business with Iran. > > Oh wait. When you say overlords, did you mean our Chinese overlords? > :) > > ray > > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Ryan McCain wrote: > >> The majority of what our overlords do is unlawful. Positive law isn't legit >> if it violates the Constitution. >> >> >> Ryan McCain >> Northrop Grumman Corporation >> Email: [email protected] >> Phone: 225.505.3832 >> >> Registered Linux User #364609 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dustin Puryear >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:28 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights >> >> Do you mean they have no moral or legal authority? They certainly have the >> legal authority (e.g., Cuba, munitions). >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active >> Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and >> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Ryan McCain >> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:19 PM >> To: '[email protected]' >> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights >> >> Our government has 0 authority to tell private companies who their customers >> can and cannot be. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:48:31 -0600 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [brlug-general] Internet Human Bill of Rights Now, this may >> be a good idea: >> >> http://www.pcworld.com/article/190579/senator_to_introduce_internet_h >> u >> man_rights_bill.html >> >> The basic idea: The law "would impose criminal or civil penalties on U.S. >> Internet companies that bow to pressure of foreign governments and violate >> human rights." >> >> Still, this creates a cache-22. This would essentially bar US companies from >> competing in markets like China, which are huge. So would this put our >> companies at a long-term disadvantage? >> >> Perhaps this law makes more sense if it applies to *ANY* company that >> operates in the US. >> >> --- >> Puryear IT, LLC - Baton Rouge, LA - http://www.puryear-it.com/ Active >> Directory Integration : Web & Enterprise Single Sign-On Identity and >> Access Management : Linux/UNIX technologies >> >> Download our free ebook "Best Practices for Linux and UNIX Servers" >> http://www.puryear-it.com/pubs/linux-unix-best-practices/ >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. 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