--- Scott Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 04:50:10PM -0700, Greg Stein
> wrote:

[...]

> 
> > Note the contrast with the "all j-c committers
> have voting rights on all j-c
> > components." I do not believe that works, and will
> not vote-for/support such
> > a model for the Apache Commons. I think the model
> will be multiple
> > components within the Commons, with associated
> groups of committers and
> > voters.
> 
> The 'intent' (IMHO, of course) of the j-c commit
> model, was that everyone had avail access to all
> code, but you had to add yourself as a member of the
> project before you committed to it.  This was
> ultimately end run where people would just add
> themselves and then veto, but I think the general
> idea of gaining access to a project is a good idea.
> 
> The most useful thing here is that since j-c has so
> many smaller projects (in terms of code size), that
> anyone willing to review and commit a patch is a
> good thing.  If you don't know much about the
> component, you don't commit the patch, but if you
> have a good idea about, but just not the bandwidth
> to completly participate, commit the patch.  Some
> may disagree with this, but I am a firm beleiver, as
> the codebase size approaches zero.
> 

I'm also not necessarily attached to the free voting
part of j-c except insofar as it doesn't restrict
people from contrtibuting to all components without
calling some sort of karma vote.  The problem is where
to draw the line.  

Someone who edits a single javadoc shouldn't vote, but
someone who cleans up all the documentation should. 
Someone who fixes a typo in an excecption shouldn't,
someone who fixes exception handling should.  Someone
who fixes a single significant bug should, shouldn't,
who knows?  It's a difficult issue on which we punted
at j-c, erring on the side of inclusion.  If you want
to take it on, then find that magic formula to figure
out when a contributor "counts".  I'm not saying it
can't be done, but make sure you make an informed
choice.  And be aware that someone who is truly petty
will find a way to subvert any rule you formulate. 
That's why we chose to just trust people's judgement.
 
- Morgan

=====
Morgan Delagrange
http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons
http://axion.tigris.org
http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog

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