On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Greg Stein wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:35:55AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >...
> > What I haven't seen is any good arguments as to why a-c is a step forward
> > for j-c and not a big step back.
>
> With respect to j-c, I'm not sure there is an argument for a step forward.
> (there may be, but I haven't applied enuf brain cycles to be able to find it
> and state it)
>
> With respect to the ASF�as a whole, there is definitely a step forward.

If this can become an agreed upon answer to my initial question of what
does A-C offer to J-C, then it looks like one of the parts of defining A-C
needs to be finding a compromise solution with J-C or laying down orders
to J-C.

A-C PMC and Jakarta PMC would seem the ones who need to lead this, no?

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I've highlighted some +ves for J-C of joining A-C. Another one being:

J-C gains the rights to go into all ASF projects to refactor Java code out
[or at the very least copy out/release/hint that proejct might wanna use
J-C] and not just Jakarta projects, which I think is all the current
charter technically allows/suggests.

Hen

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