Ya, if we keep general@ to it's intended purpose (and better document/enforce 
the use of various lists) then there is no need for a new list.  I'll make the 
edit's Owen suggested to the revamped mailing_lists.html.

I'm still confused, however, where release discussions should happen.  general@ 
or common-...@?  I guess I'll leave them on general@ unless this is enough 
opposition to that.

Nige

On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Ian Holsman wrote:

> to add some metrics to this discussion.
> 
> we have ~3,500 unique email addresses subscribed to at least one hadoop 
> mailing list.
> 
> 
> subscribed to:
> 1 list : 2431
> 2 lists:  784
> 3 lists:  238
> 4 lists:  118
> 5 lists:   56
> 6 lists:   66
> 7 lists:  102 
> 
> (I didn't look at the various 'issues or commits' mailing lists).
> 
> So I'm not really sure adding another list will get more focused discussions, 
> or further split up the community.
> 
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Nigel Daley wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Nigel Daley wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Owen O'Malley wrote:
>>>>> We do try to move the questions off of general. It would be great if 
>>>>> someone
>>>>> updated the website with the intended usage of each of the lists.
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I'll work on a page.
>>> 
>>> Done. See the revamped http://hadoop.apache.org/mailing_lists.html
>>> Corrections welcome.  You must now click on general@ to see the 
>>> subscription instructions (it's a new page).
>> 
>> I'd suggest segregating the list into 4 tables based on audience:
>> 
>> user questions:
>> common-user
>> hdfs-user
>> mapreduce-user
>> security - only for notifying the project of security vulnerabilities
>> 
>> project level announcements and discussions:
>> general
>> 
>> developer questions:
>> common-dev
>> hdfs-dev
>> mapreduce-dev
>> 
>> jira and subversion tracking for developers:
>> common-issues
>> common-commits
>> hdfs-issues
>> hdfs-commits
>> 
>> mapreduce-issues
>> mapreduce-commits
>> 
>> -- Owen
> 

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