Hi,

Some background on the web of trust (wot) that ASF uses for signers of code releases is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

You correctly point out that the icla is a binding document in which the party signing the document grants certain intellectual property rights to the ASF. The signature on this document is not verified to be the signature of a real person. It could be anyone. But whoever signed the document and commits code under the name in the document is assumed to have the authority to do so.

The wot is a different thing. It grants no authority and has no inherent rights. The only thing it attempts to guarantee is that the real person who is in the wot is the person who is responsible for signing the releases.

The primary way the Apache wot is increased is at signing parties usually but not necessarily conducted during ApacheCons. A signing party can be held any time as long as there are two people who want to confirm each others' identity and add to the wot. At least one of the people at the signing party is already a member of the wot. If only one, then the wot created at the party is connected to the Apache wot via one or more "strands of trust" (I made that up).

Craig

On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:57 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

On Sunday 28 October 2007 06:24, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Perhaps
we should add some information on getting into the Web of Trust, although
that is really a general committer item, not Incubator specific.

I am not very security fluent, and perhaps someone could explain to me;

What is the difference of being an Apache committer/Member with the *signed* ICLA, which indeed is a legal document, and that other ASF folks has seen
your driver's license (et al) and signed you into the web of trust?

From my perspective, the latter is not legally binding and at the most act as
some form of "someone has identified it to be a real person with that
name"...

FWIW, I think ASF should increase the efforts in the ASF Web of Trust, both getting more people engaged (like myself, I can't figure out the practical details on how to go about it) as well as tooling support for verifications.


Cheers
Niclas

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