On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hi Niall, > >>> [...] >>> Dist is the active archive. The archive.apache.org is the "deep archive". >>> Both should exist, and both should have a copy of the data. >>> >> >> Dist isn't an archive - its a distribution area archive.apache.org is >> the archive. > > I respectfully disagree.
:) Well, then the best thing is to take it up on infra@ and persuade them to change policy. Niall > Cheers, > Chris > >> >> Niall >> >>> Cheers, >>> Chris >>> >>>> >>>> Niall >>>> >>>>>> Keeping the dist area tidy with only current releases >>>>>> means that this huge ASF-wide content is mirrored efficiently. >>>>> >>>>> At what cost? In my mind, there is a subtle point lost here. >>>>> >>>>> Archiving is good and it has to do with mirroring. What i'm advocating >>>>> for is preservation. We should never delete the original copy dists for >>>>> *any project*. It creates disconnects between the world-wide mirroring >>>>> system that is called email, and locally caching things, and archiving >>>>> and cataloging links. >>>>> >>>>> The cost of invalidating those negates a ton of the savings that you're >>>>> proposing. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, we don't mirror archive.a.o via that dist system. >>>>> >>>>> Gotcha. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I just had a look at Tika download page. It does as i suggested >>>>>> earlier: They link to >>>>>> archive.apache.org/dist/tika/ >>>>>> for old releases >>>>>> and to >>>>>> archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/tika/ >>>>>> for the older incubator releases. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah I think we updated that. I couldn't remember if we actually directly >>>>> linked to incubator.a.o. I think I might have even updated that when I >>>>> noticed the links were broke on the site. >>>>> >>>>> Regardless, we should haven't to update it it. I'm proposing that's *it's >>>>> a good thing* to have an original + 1 copy from a reliability and >>>>> software preservation perspective. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>>>> Senior Computer Scientist >>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>>>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>> Senior Computer Scientist >>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 >>> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov >>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department >>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
