On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:

> 
> On 3 Jun 2011, at 17:52, Ian Lynch wrote:
> 
>> Hi Florian,
>> 
>> 
>>> I do see with great concern is the need for a second project to be set-up
>>> at Apache or any other entity.
>>> 
>> 
>> Thing is that this is done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP to any
>> other foundation.  So we are where we are.
> 
> We may be where we are, but we collectively have the opportunity to 
> collaborate once Oracle has gone - that's what "open" means.  "My way or the 
> highway" talk - from any side - is detestable.  ASF has the opportunity to 
> reject the bait to head down the path of ideological conflict, choose a 
> conciliatory path that respects the existing community and especially to use 
> the trademark (which is the only actual asset being transferred) for 
> everyone's good.
> 

Let's be honest: by "collaborate" you mean have the ASF simply
xfer the code and the trademark to TDF and walk away... At least,
that is the strong impression you give. Please correct me if I'm
wrong.


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