+1 to graduate. This is a project in a fierce space as Martijn noted, and I think "incubating" is hampering its attractiveness. It will become a swim or sink challenge as TLP, but doubt the forecast is any better of staying here.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:39 PM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Martijn Dashorst > <martijn.dasho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent >> framework for building and consuming network services. The Etch >> toolset includes a network service description language, a compiler, >> and binding libraries for a variety of programming languages. It >> currently supports C, C# and Java. Support for Go, JavaScript and >> Python is deemed alpha status. >> >> Etch has 4 mentors listed: Yonik, Doug, Niclas and myself. Currently >> it seems I am the only mentor active. >> >> The facts: >> >> - We have roughly 4 active contributors: 3 committers and 1 person >> responding to messages on the dev/user lists. >> - We know how to add committers: the 3 currently active committers >> were all not part of the team when incubation started. One of them was >> voted in in the last half year. >> - The community is diverse, or as diverse you can get in a 4 person group. >> - We know how to cut releases. >> - Reporting has been on schedule. >> >> The podling is IMO ready to graduate, but lacks a sustainable >> community (as noted elsewhere). The podling started out as a project >> of Cisco, and had an active group of committers, but when the economy >> happened, the team was disbanded and effectively left the podling >> stranded. >> >> When I think of the reasons why people are reluctant to join Etch, I think >> that: >> - being in incubation hinders adoption of the code base >> - its use is not advertised well (e.g. BMW uses it in their Minis) >> - competition in the networking library space is fierce (though not >> too many libs exist) >> >> The project can address 2, 3 is something external and the IPMC can address >> 1. >> >> Now the big question: is Etch a candidate for graduating to TLP? >> >> I think it is, given the facts. It will be a TLP with issues of >> activity, but so far user questions, development questions are >> answered and releases are cut. The website has been updated recently, >> so I don't see an immediate danger of the project going south. I think >> that graduation of the podling will be a good thing and might give the >> project a bit of renewed energy. >> >> So... What to do? >> > > Looking at commits in the last three months shows only two active > committers [1] extending that to six months shows three committers and > looking in the mail archives i see that extra committer has emailed > the dev list last month so is still around. So i think it could be > argued that there are three active committers and assuming they're > independent of each other then technically that meets that aspect of > the minimum graduation requirements. > > Seems like a borderline case but there are other existing TLPs with > few active committers. I did a bit of digging about in the project and > i guess my gut feel would be if the mentors are recommending > graduation is the best thing for them now and are going to be helping > out by being on the PMC then i'd vote +1 for graduation too. > > ..ant > > [1] > http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?from=20111001&path=%2Fincubator%2Fetch > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/3xugrbk I work here; http://tinyurl.com/6a2pl4j I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
