I think David asked it today because Brett, David and I shared a coffee 
yesterday and this was one of the topics of conversation. It's timing that's 
all.

The problem with working out *during* incubation is that the foundation has 
already committed to providing the support necessary. We need an indication 
upon entry. I believe David asked this question in order to start doing this 
informally while we figure out how to do it in a more consistent and managed 
way.

In summary, I fully agree with your comment "We should ask the same questions 
to projects" and moving forwards I believe we will do so - starting now.

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From: Chris Mattmann<mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Sent: ?Thursday?, ?September? ?25?, ?2014 ?11?:?03? ?AM
To: <general@incubator.apache.org><mailto:general@incubator.apache.org>
Cc: Shoaib Sufi<mailto:shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk>

We should ask the same questions to projects and I don't see this question of 
infrastructure asked very often. So I raised it.

David of course is doing great and I just saw some of this as can be worked out 
during incubation

Thanks

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> On Sep 25, 2014, at 10:46 AM, "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" 
> <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> It's a requirement for the ASF to support its projects. Understanding what 
> impact each project coming into the incubator might have is important to 
> allow VP Infra to plan for our growth. David did not ask if Manchester will 
> be donating resources, he asked what do they currently provide and what does 
> the project think they will need from the ASF.
>
> For the record, I am familiar with Taverna from a previous life. It's is 
> interesting to see this proposal coming to the ASF.  The first time this was 
> discussed with the University of Manchester was many years ago. The 
> conversation occurred every couple of years, each time with different people, 
> but never progressed to a proposal. Given the answers in this thread things 
> have changed quite considerably since then.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980)<mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
> Sent: ?9/?25/?2014 10:09 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org<mailto:general@incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: Shoaib Sufi<mailto:shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:34 AM
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: Shoaib Sufi <shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow
>
> [..snip..]
>>
>> I see two paragraphs here that don't answer the question posed. Where
>> will plugin development happen in an ideal world?
>
> This is an implementation detail and can be dealt with during Incubation?
>
>>
>> One followup question - what kind of build/CI resources does the
>> University of Manchester provide? What manner of resources do you
>> believe you'll need if the project moves to the ASF?
>
> Is it a requirement for projects to provide build/CI resources
> now to enter the Incubator? I do not believe that it is.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
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