On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 4:27 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> #2 The #1 goal is achieved via mentorship. In fact mentorship is > not even required > as the case of Zest (and hopeful Yetus soon) demonstrated. > #3 When mentorship is required IPMC entrusts the mentors to guide > the project to graduation. It should let them do that. > In short, I'd like to see IPMC behave more like the ASF board, and > provide an effective > oversight over the mentors not micro management. This is a tough > balance, I know. I also have this view point, sort of. I think the Incubator is "too heavy" and currently not at all modeled after the Board (compare 9 directors with 100s of IPMC members). We don't bring Apache Hadoop Release Vetting and Vote to the Board, it should be with the Mentors and podling community, and after a release has been made, a line item shows up in the next report. Empower the Mentors to run the podlings, teach the newcomers and bring it to TLP. This list would become a "go to"-list, for inspiration, exchange and coordination, similar to the ComDev list or the internal Member's list. About 40% of the last 100 threads on general@ is "vote release"... Cut that away is a good start in reforming the Incubator... Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java