We have had several people write in to general@ over the past few months with 
this type of request. In at least one case a request triggered a vote on the 
private list. We should update the incubator site with guidance on what is the 
best way to approach the IPMC if this isn't ideal. 


> On Dec 12, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Marvin Humphrey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Taylor <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm the PMC Chair for Apache Phoenix and a PMC member of Apache Calcite,
>> both top level project and both of which I went through the incubation
>> process. Recently several projects interested in going through incubation
>> approached me to be a mentor, hence my interest in joining - so that I can
>> help guide them through this process. I understand that the process for non
>> ASF members is to initiate a vote on the private list. I'd appreciate it if
>> that could start at your earliest convenience.
>> 
>> Please let me know if I need to perform any further action before a vote is
>> started.
> 
> Hi James, thanks for your interest. For what it's worth, there's no
> reason you couldn't help out a podling without being a Mentor.  And
> the process for non-ASF-Members joining the Incubator PMC is actually
> the same as for any other Apache PMC -- someone earns merit and then
> is invited to join.
> 
> Regardless of what happens in this specific case, if people are going
> to initiate direct requests like this, I wish they would use the
> private list.  Every once in a while somebody who has not earned merit
> makes a request to join a PMC; it is awkward to rebuff such requests
> discreetly when the request is public.  Apache private lists are not
> supposed to be used a lot, but personnel discussions are one of the
> main reasons we have them.
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
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