On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:57 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>
> Hi John,
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:57 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> > ....Below is the incubator board report....
> I object to the paragraphs quoted below about Mark Struberg and Tamaya
> and suggest removing them, reworking to avoid mentioning names or
> marking them <private>.
I have removed the section from the public report, added a single line
indicating a loss of team members, and sent an email (privately) to the
PPMC (not PPMS) with a proposed change to go in a private section.
> Our reports are meant to stay online forever, this excerpt is critical
> of Mark in a way that's not needed and goes into lots of details about
> that "alternative JSR" story, which are not relevant IMO about the
> podling's progress overall.
This is where things get hairy for this podling. A JSR was one of their
goals since their proposal came through, as can be read on their initial
> Someone made a proposal, it was not accepted, that person left -
> that's all typical business in our projects.
> So maybe just summarize this as "a proposal was made for a different
> configuration JSR, which the PPMC didn't agree with, resulting in some
> people leaving the project" or something like that.
> (there's no PPMS by the way ;-)
Yep, fixed that for them as well.
> -Bertrand, with just my Incubator PMC hat on, nothing more
> > ...Mark Struberg tried to established his ideas of a configuration JSR.
> > Though he was mentoring Tamaya his proposal did not match, what
> > we did in the project and could have a large impact on the project.
> > Even worse he did not collaborate with the project.
> > The main committers and PPMS members of the project did a hangout,
> > Where it has been decided that we will NOT change the API in favour of
> > the ideas of Mark. On one side we already had that kind of discussion 2
> > years ago and, on the other side an increasing number of people start
> > use the project, so breaking API changes do not make sense.
> > Fortunately the Java community and Oracle did actively get in contact
> > with us regarding the planned new “Java EE Configuration JSR” and
> > see Tamaya as a very good base for building the configuration JSR with
> > similar concepts. Given that one of the original main purposes has been
> > achieved. As Mark failed with his ideas, he consequently quit his
> > assignment as a project mentor....
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