Hi,

sure. I think we can update the wiki with the proposal.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

On 19/09/2018 04:34, Tan,Zhongyi wrote:
> Hi,JB,
> 
> can we invite you as the mentor of brpc?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> 在 2018/9/17 下午12:18, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> 写入:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> With great pleasure. I'm not sure I will contribute so much on the code,
>> but I would be more than happy to help and guide the incubation.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 17/09/2018 05:21, Tan,Zhongyi wrote:
>>> Hi, JB
>>>
>>> Would you like to be champion for this project?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> 在 2018/9/14 下午5:20, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> 写入:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the details. It helps.
>>>>
>>>> Let me do a new pass on the proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 14/09/2018 10:19, Tan,Zhongyi wrote:
>>>>> Hi, JB,
>>>>> Below are our answers to your questions,
>>>>> Please check,
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. brpc doesn't depend on any other Apache projects. brpc currently
>>>>> depends on the following external project:
>>>>>    - leveldb
>>>>>    - openssl
>>>>>    - protobuf
>>>>>    - gperftools (optional)
>>>>>    - glog (optional)
>>>>>    - gtest
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. brpc is alternative for C++ rpc fcramework,implementations for
>>>>> other
>>>>> languages are not competitive enough (comparing to gRPC) to be
>>>>> opensourced.  Besides the basic RPC function, brpc(C++) provides
>>>>> additional features than gRPC:
>>>>>    - Clients and servers can talk in multiple protocols: baidu
>>>>> internal
>>>>> protocol, http, thrift, http2(communicable with gRPC, the PR is under
>>>>> reviewing) and tens of other protocols.
>>>>>    - Proved better performance in different scenarios, by eliminating
>>>>> locks on hotpaths and using goroutine-like concurrency(bthread) with
>>>>> cache
>>>>> friendly data structures
>>>>>    - More useful debugging utilities to help C++ programers build
>>>>> solid
>>>>> online services.
>>>>>    - Various access patterns such as one-to-one, one-to-many(fan out),
>>>>> streaming, which simplify implementation of complex distributed
>>>>> services.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 在 2018/9/13 下午3:00, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net> 写入:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's an interesting project. I have two questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. do you have some interactions/dependencies with other Apache
>>>>>> projects, especially CXF for instance ?
>>>>>> 2. what's the comparison between brpc and gRPC ? An alternative ?
>>>>>> Different features ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might be interested by mentoring the project, I would like to
>>>>>> understand exactly the target/purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/09/2018 08:20, Tan,Zhongyi wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc is one open source RPC framework that is very popular in baidu
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> china.
>>>>>>> We want to contribute it to ASF to make it more successful.
>>>>>>> And we are looking for champion and mentor for this project,
>>>>>>> if anyone would like to volunteer, we will be very appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the draft for brpc proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> # brpc Proposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Abstract
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc is an industrial-grade RPC framework for building reliable and
>>>>>>> high-performance services.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Proposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We propose to contribute the brpc codebase and associated
>>>>>>> artifacts(e.g. documentation etc.) to the Apache Software
>>>>>>> Foundation,
>>>>>>> and aim to  build a wider open community around it in the 'Apache
>>>>>>> Way'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Background
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The RPC framework used in Baidu before 2014 was developed at 2008
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> limited in protocols and performance, and there were also serveral
>>>>>>> implementations focused on their own scenarios from Baidu's
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>> BU. As an infrastructural team in Baidu, we tried to build a new
>>>>>>> framework to unify all RPC scenarios inside. The framework was named
>>>>>>> "baidu-rpc" internally the early versions were adopted and online at
>>>>>>> late 2014. The framework was rapidly iterated at 2015-2017, and
>>>>>>> thousands kinds of services and almost all core services adopted it.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> in 2017, we opensourced it as "brpc" and hope to get more adoptions
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> contributions from outside. At the time of opensourcing, there're
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> than 1 million instances inside Baidu using baidu-rpc (not counting
>>>>>>> clients).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Rationale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc has been approved inside baidu, since many high performance
>>>>>>> core
>>>>>>> services are using it.
>>>>>>> And since its open source, it has been adopted by several other
>>>>>>> companies, including Iqiyi, Didi, Sougou, BiliBili etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Current Status
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc has been an open source project on GitHub
>>>>>>> (https://github.com/brpc/brpc) since 2017.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently it has more than 7.3k stars, 1.6k forks, and is one of the
>>>>>>> most popular repositories in topic of rpc category in GitHub rpc
>>>>>>> catelogy.
>>>>>>> It has been widely used in Baidu, with 1,000,000+ instances and
>>>>>>> thousands kinds of services.
>>>>>>> Besides, many other companies have already used it also, such as
>>>>>>> Iqiyi,
>>>>>>> Didi, Sougou, BiliBili etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Meritocracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc was originally created by Ge Jun and Chen zhangyi inside baidu
>>>>>> >from 2014.
>>>>>>> Since its opensource in 2017, it has already followed meritocracy
>>>>>>> principles.
>>>>>>> It accepts multiple contributions from other companies.
>>>>>>> And now, the core developers are from several different companies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will follow Apache way to encourage more developers to contribute
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> this project.
>>>>>>> We know that only active and committed developers from a diverse set
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> backgrounds
>>>>>>> can make brpc a successful project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Community
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc has been building an active community since its open source.
>>>>>>> Currently,
>>>>>>> the community includes over 31 contributors.
>>>>>>> The core developers of brpc are listed below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Core Developers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Ge Jun(https://github.com/jamesge jge...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>> * Chen Zhangyi(https://github.com/chenzhangyi frozen....@gmail.com)
>>>>>>> * Jiang Rujie(https://github.com/old-bear jrjb...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>> * Zhu Jiashun(http://github.com/zyearn zhujiashun2...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>> * Wang Yao(https://github.com/ipconfigme ipconfi...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Alignment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc is useful for building reliable and high-performance
>>>>>>> applications.
>>>>>>> Since ASF has many famous performance-related and rpc-related
>>>>>>> projects,
>>>>>>> we believe that ASF is a perfect choice to help brpc project to
>>>>>>> attract
>>>>>>> more developers and users as well as having more cooperation with
>>>>>>> existing projects.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Known Risks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Orphaned Products
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since our core developers are from different companies and many
>>>>>>> companies are using it,
>>>>>>> the risk of the project being abandoned is minimal.
>>>>>>> For example, Baidu is extensively using it in their production
>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>> and many large corporations including Iqiyi, Didi, Sougou, BiliBili
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> it in their production applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Inexperience with Open Source
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc has been an active open source project for more than one year.
>>>>>>> During that time, the project has attracted 30+ contributors and
>>>>>>> gained
>>>>>>> a lot of attention.
>>>>>>> The core developers are all active users and followers of open
>>>>>>> source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Homogenous Developers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc was created inside Baidu, but after brpc was open sourced, it
>>>>>>> received a lot of bug fixes and enhancements from other developers
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> working at Baidu.
>>>>>>> And the core developers now are from different companies now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Reliance on Salaried Developers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Baidu invested in brpc as a general rpc framework used in company
>>>>>>> widely.
>>>>>>> The core developers have been dedicated to this project for about
>>>>>>> four
>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>> And after its open source, developers around the world have involved
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>> Besides, we want more developers and researchers to contribute to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The mission of brpc is to help developers build reliable and
>>>>>>> high-performance services quickly and easily.
>>>>>>> It has been widely used in production environment throughout Baidu
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> after opensource, it has gained much attention and attracted
>>>>>>> developers
>>>>>>> all over the world.
>>>>>>> Apache Brand is very respected. We are very honored to have the
>>>>>>> opportunity to join ASF, with the understanding that its brand
>>>>>>> policies
>>>>>>> being respected.
>>>>>>> And we hope Apache can help us build the ecosystem around brpc and
>>>>>>> attract more developers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Documentation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following links provide more information about brpc in open
>>>>>>> source:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Codebase at Github: https://github.com/brpc/brpc
>>>>>>> Issue Tracking: https://github.com/brpc/brpc/issues
>>>>>>> Overview: 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/brpc/brpc/blob/master/docs/en/overview.md
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Initial Source
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc has been developed since 2014 by a team of engineers at Baidu
>>>>>>> Inc.
>>>>>>> We currently use Github to maintain our source code and track issues
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> https://github.com/brpc/brpc.
>>>>>>> We need to move our repository to Apache infrastructure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc source code is available under Apache V2 license and owned by
>>>>>>> Baidu.
>>>>>>> We will work with the committers to get ICLAs signed. We will
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Software Grant Agreement from an authorized signer per
>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant-template.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## External Dependencies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc has the following external dependencies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Google gflags (BSD)
>>>>>>> * Google protobuf (BSD)
>>>>>>> * Google leveldb (BSD)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Required Resources
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Mailing List
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are currently no mailing lists. The usual mailing lists are
>>>>>>> expected to be set up when entering incubation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * priv...@brpc.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> * d...@brpc.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> * comm...@brpc.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Git Repositories:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Upon entering incubation, we want to transfer the existing repo from
>>>>>>> https://github.com/brpc/brpc to Apache infrastructure like
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-brpc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Issue Tracking:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brpc currently uses GitHub to track issues. Would like to continue
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do so while we discuss migration possibilities with the ASF Infra
>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Other Resources:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently brpc has no dedicated website except Github homepage. In
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> future the website url should be http://brpc.incubator.apache.org/
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> follow apache incubator conventions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ## Sponsors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Champion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * todo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Mentors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * todo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ### Sponsoring Entity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are requesting the Incubator to sponsor this project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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