On 02/04/2019 16.41, Ross Gardler wrote:
Myrle makes a good point. As a mentor (is been a long time though) I tried to
cast my vote after there were at least 3 views from the community. Once I saw
the ppmc catching issues I was missing, or I was simply ratifying their view,
it was time to graduate.
The IPMC should have nothing to do with it, other than as a backstop for absent
mentors.
Interested IPMC members can join the community like everyone else. They are not
some privileged group that gets special treatment.
I agree and like this!
Can we change the rules such that a PPMC release vote only needs to
be notified to the IPMC (general@), and without further ado be accepted
when at least +3 binding votes have been given on the podling dev list?
That leaves room for other interested IPMC members to participate in the
vote *there*, but won't depend on it.
Only when not enough binding IPMC votes are collected during the podling
release vote, it can either be re-started on general@, or a heads-up can
be send there requesting explicit help from other IPMC members.
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From: Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:31:41 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Mentors SHOULD vote on podling releases prior to asking
IPMC to vote
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:09 PM Bertrand Delacretaz <
bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 11:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
...Maybe the PPMC and IPMC vote could run in parallel...
I think the reason for having two votes is to give an opportunity for
mentors to catch issues in the first one without bothering the IPMC.
The vote on the podling list is more (in my opinion) about giving the
members of the PPMC hands-on practice in catching issues before the safety
net of mentors/IPMC comes into play. This is one reason why some mentors
sometimes chose to wait a bit before voting on releases.
Best Regards,
Myrle
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