Thanks, Gian. I bet you’re familiar with DataSketches (as it has ancestry/people in common with Druid) and I recall that recently they needed more mentors.
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Gian Merlino <g...@apache.org> wrote: > > One more voice here: I'm not an ASF member, but I'd be interested in > mentoring other podlings after Druid graduates. Julian has been very > helpful to us while we've been incubating and I'd like to pay it forward. > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:12 AM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: > >> I don’t have a strong opinion on the subject of this thread - whether it >> should be easy for ASF members to join the IPMC - but I have a strong >> opinion about a related matter - namely, how easy it should be for non-ASF >> members to join the IPMC. >> >> The IPMC should be actively recruiting members of recently-graduated >> projects to serve as mentors of the next generation of podlings. >> >> I bet quite a few people people think that you have to be an ASF member to >> be on the IPMC or mentor a project. And we certainly give the impression >> that ASF members make the best mentors. But I claim that people who have >> just been through the incubation process also make excellent mentors. They >> have experienced the pain, and they know the answers to many of the IT- and >> process-related questions because they have just solved them. >> >> Like Sheng, I joined the IPMC before I was a member. The project I >> founded, Calcite, was close to graduating and I was active on general@ >> because being a podling is hard and raises many questions. Some other >> podlings were entering incubation and someone (I think Ted Dunning or Alan >> Gates) asked me to be a mentor. From that, I was drawn into other Apache >> projects, saw the broader Apache community, and was drawn into the worthy >> task of helping to govern the Foundation. For me, serving as a mentor was a >> way of saying ’thank you’ for the help I had received from mentors during >> incubation. And for the IPMC, it provided an active and engaged mentor, >> always a scarce resource. >> >> Julian >> >> >>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:29 PM, Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> My Apache journey started at Incubator, and as IPMC now(not asf member). >> I >>> noticed this requirement too. >>> >>> From the members I known personally, most indeed know Apache way very >> well. >>> And truely there is exception. >>> >>> Basically, I think removing this makes sense. >>> >>> 1. if this member has been incubator journey, such as being initial >>> committer of a podling, it is easy to know and should have taken part in >>> incubator ml much. >>> >>> 2. there are indeed asf members elected by other reasons, so, they are >> not >>> familiar w/ incubator, and need more time to learn too. Apache has so >> many >>> TLPs and ways to take part in, a member is not required used to be >>> incubator. >>> >>> My +1 on IPMC should have enough incubator experiences. >>> >>> Also, very open to know the history reason of this. >>> >>> Sheng >>> >>> Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>于2019年8月9日 周五下午1:04写道： >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Current any ASF member can come along and ask to join the IPMC. I assume >>>> this was put in place for two reasons: ( but don’t know the full history >>>> behind it) >>>> - There was a lack of mentors. >>>> - Is is assumed that if you are an ASF member you know enough about the >>>> Apache Way to mentor a project. >>>> >>>> I’m not sure if this is the case anymore. And while the mentor situation >>>> has improved I don’t think the above has solved the problem of having >>>> active members or mentors having the required knowledge and skills they >>>> need. >>>> >>>> So if you want to be a IPMC member and mentor a project then I think you >>>> need you have gone through the full incubation process yourself and/or >> help >>>> out with other incubator duties and get voted in as an IPMC member. Just >>>> like every other ASF project. >>>> >>>> What do other people think? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Justin >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>>> -- >>> Sheng Wu >>> SkyWalking, Shardingsphere and Zipkin >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
