Sorry wrong link: [2] - the discussion was moved to LEGAL and I asked it in
the legal one:

[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-599

On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 7:19 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:

> I added my comment to [1]. I think there are good reasons why the decision
> about rejecting the "Merge Queue'' feature from GitHub should be revised
> (and I asked for it).
>
> IMHO it was partially based on misunderstanding how "merge queue" works
> and partially because we did not have the precedent. Now we have the
> Dependabot precedent which is IMHO basically doing the same thing, and I
> explained that explicit act of committer is still necessary for the merge
> queue to work (which was the basis for rejection).
>
> I keep my fingers crossed that we can have it as we also suffer from
> having to do back-forth with PRs
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22804
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 3:13 PM tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sheng,
>>
>> I think you're right that I can remove 'required_status_checks.strict' in
>> .asf.yaml to disable up-to-date requirements and then find other way to
>> resolve logic conflict issue. At least the committers should be aware of
>> which case should merge main branch.
>>
>> Hi Martinjn,
>>
>> Good to know that you meet similar requirements and those previous
>> discussions. I think one possible way is finding a sponsored bors-ng
>> deployment and ask INFRA to setup webhook, or ask INFRA to enable bors-ng /
>> mergify app on the repo. I don't know whether it's a good fit but some
>> thoughts.
>>
>> BTW, GitHub provides an option to always show "Update Branch" but not
>> require to be up-to-date. I'll ask INFRA whether there's an option to
>> configure. See also https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23432.
>>
>> Best,
>> tison.
>>
>>
>> Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org> 于2022年6月29日周三 21:13写道:
>>
>>> Hi Tison,
>>>
>>> I asked a couple of months ago [1] if Infra could enable Github's Merge
>>> Queue Functionality [2]. That was rejected unfortunately. I'm also
>>> curious
>>> if others think of a solution that would be compliant with the ASF rules.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-22804
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> https://github.blog/changelog/2021-10-27-pull-request-merge-queue-limited-beta/
>>>
>>> Op wo 29 jun. 2022 om 13:53 schreef Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > I think the key is you set up to date for main branch, which makes CI
>>> has
>>> > to rerun.
>>> >
>>> > tison <wander4...@gmail.com>于2022年6月29日 周三19:39写道:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Sheng,
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I do _not_ ask INFRA to support it, but to see if there is
>>> existing
>>> >> practice.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >> tison.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2022年6月29日周三 19:33写道:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi Tison
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I think there is no hard requirement from infra or Apache
>>> perspective.
>>> >> The
>>> >> > PMC could decide what they like, and ask Infra team to set them up.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > tison <wander4...@gmail.com>于2022年6月29日 周三19:25写道:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Hi,
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > There're several solutions around GitHub ecosystem to queuing
>>> patches
>>> >> > > passed reviews and waiting for merged, especially in case to avoid
>>> >> > semantic
>>> >> > > conflict; e.g., Mergify or Bors-NG.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > After enabled branch must be up-to-date with main branch, it
>>> >> introduces
>>> >> > an
>>> >> > > issue that multiple patches can race each other and cause
>>> unnecessary
>>> >> CI
>>> >> > > tasks rerun - two patches can be verified simultaneously, after
>>> one
>>> >> > merged,
>>> >> > > the other should rerun, which generally cause O(n^2) task instance
>>> >> while
>>> >> > > with queuing only O(n) is required.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Given that there're existing solutions, I'd like to ask what the
>>> best
>>> >> > > practice for Apache projects host developments on GitHub on this
>>> >> topic.
>>> >> > Or
>>> >> > > what support does INFRA provide for the certain case.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Best,
>>> >> > > tison.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Apache SkyWalking
>>> >> > Apache Incubator
>>> >> > Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
>>> >> > Zipkin
>>> >> > Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> > --
>>> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> >
>>> > Apache SkyWalking
>>> > Apache Incubator
>>> > Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings
>>> > Zipkin
>>> > Twitter, wusheng1108
>>> >
>>>
>>

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