Hi Daniel, For example, after the project is donated(in incubation), when users visit "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" or "github.com/apache/hugegraph", it could automatically jump to "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph" (As expected)
However, if we create a new repo from "selfserve.apache.org" (like "github.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-ai"), when the users visit non-prefix url "github.com/apache/hugegraph-ai", it will return 404 instead of automatically redirecting to "incubator-hugegraph-ai" (Unexpected, maybe we need submit a JIRA ticket to enable it) Hope my explanation is clear~ Imba Jin On 2024/05/08 14:53:13 Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>> sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>> > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>> > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > >>>> indication. > >>>> > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>> users, > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>> > >>> Can't agree more on this. > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>> indicator is clear enough. > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>> GitHub supported operation. > >>> > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >> > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >> branding of podlings. > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > matter to the end user? > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>> <alin.jerpe...@sony.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > >>>>> migrate after graduation > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Alin > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> Från: hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub repo > >>>>> name > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla <richard@ > >>>>> zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. > >>>>> Mai 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu <wu. sheng. 841108@ gmail. > >>>>> com>: > >-0 > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > >>>>> sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>>>> > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla <rich...@zowalla.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu > >>>>>> <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> -0 binding > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang > >>>>>>>>> <francischu...@apache.org> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> +1 (binding) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Francis > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > >>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>> proposals: > >>>>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > >>>>>> GitHub repo to > >>>>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >>>>>>>>>> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop their > >>>>>>>>>> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > >>>>>>>>>> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > >>>>>> description > >>>>>>>>>> can conflict with this consensus. > >>>>>>>>>> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to describe > >>>>>>>>>> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, including > >>>>>>>>>> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > >>>>>> DISCLAIMER > >>>>>>>>>> content). > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >>>>>>>>>> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the > >>>>>>>>>> incubator- > >>>>>>>>>> prefix, and other items above > >>>>>>>>>> +0 do not care strongly > >>>>>>>>>> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > >>>>>>>>>> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > >>>>>> member of > >>>>>>>>>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > >>>>>>>>>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > >>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>> tison. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Best Regards, > >>>>> - *Hulk Lin* > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
