+1 binding Can't we move the indicator to the About section where it says Mirror of (project name). Extend that to include Under Incubation as well.
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:53 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > On 5/8/24 09:45, sebb wrote: > > On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 15:15, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> On 5/8/24 03:20, Sheng Wu wrote: > >>> sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年5月8日周三 16:12写道： > >>>> > >>>> Remember that the purpose of the incubator prefix is to clearly signal > >>>> that the code is under Incubation. > >>>> > >>>> It is essential that this change does not result in losing this > indication. > >>>> > >>>> AFAICT, for most podlings, dropping the incubator prefix will require > >>>> additional work to ensure that the Incubation status is clear to > >>>> users, > >>>> and will require additional work by the IPMC to ensure that podlings > >>>> adequately display the Incubation status for each repository. > >>> > >>> Can't agree more on this. > >>> In this vote proposal, we implicitly add many more checks for IPMC, > >>> and lead more potential arguments about whether the incubating status > >>> indicator is clear enough. > >>> We are making IPMC pay the price in the future by removing a simple > >>> GitHub supported operation. > >>> > >>> On second thought, I am changing my vote to -1 binding. > >> > >> This seems to point at more systemic failings of the IPMC if we are > >> relying on the incubator- repository prefix for denoting podlings. I'll > >> note that, as far as I can tell, the original reason for the incubator > >> prefix was that of a technical limitation with the incubator, and > >> shouldn't (imho) be used as a crutch for failings elsewhere in the > >> branding of podlings. > > > > It's not a crutch if the naming convention satisfies the requirement; > > it's just another way of doing it. > > > >> I am +1 (binding) on dropping the prefix myself. Incubation notices > >> should be handled during releases, and on the official podling website. > > > > IMO Incubation status needs to be made clear from the very start. > > It is not something that can be left until later. > > *We* know what incubation means, and *we* know what the incubator- > prefix denotes. Does the general public have any clue? Does the prefix > matter to the end user? > > I know the prefix requires additional work from the projects and infra > upon graduation, which is a tangible downside. Is there a tangible > upside to the prefix, empirically speaking? > > > > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 08:30, alin.jerpe...@sony.com > >>>> <alin.jerpe...@sony.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> +1 (non binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> from my experience will make the documentation and releases easy to > migrate after graduation > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards > >>>>> Alin > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> Från: hulk <hulk.webs...@gmail.com> > >>>>> Skickat: den 8 maj 2024 09:06 > >>>>> Till: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> > >>>>> Ämne: Re: [VOTE] Drop the incubator- prefix for podling's GitHub > repo name > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13: 58, Richard Zowalla <richard@ > zowalla. com> wrote: > -0 (binding) > > (I like the prefix) > > Am 8. Mai > 2024 07: 41: 16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu <wu. sheng. 841108@ gmail. com>: > > >-0 > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > >>>>> Caution : This email originated from outside of Sony. > >>>>> Do not click links or open any attachments unless you recognize the > sender and know the content is safe. Please report phishing if unsure. > >>>>> > >>>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > >>>>> > >>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:58, Richard Zowalla <rich...@zowalla.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> -0 (binding) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (I like the prefix) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Am 8. Mai 2024 07:41:16 MESZ schrieb Sheng Wu < > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>: > >>>>>>> -0 binding > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >>>>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> 于2024年5月8日周三 12:16写道： > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> +0 (binding) wave > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On May 7, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Francis Chuang < > francischu...@apache.org> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> +1 (binding) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think this is a pragmatic and well-thought out approach. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Francis > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 8/05/2024 10:31 am, tison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>> Following the discussion thread [1], I'd start a vote on the > >>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>> proposals: > >>>>>>>>>> 1. Establish a consensus to allow and finally converge podling's > >>>>>> GitHub repo to > >>>>>>>>>> have a name without the incubator- prefix. > >>>>>>>>>> 2. Allow existing ongoing podlings to ask the INFRA to drop > their > >>>>>>>>>> incubator- prefix by now, not MUST during the graduation. > >>>>>>>>>> 3. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org everywhere if the > >>>>>> description > >>>>>>>>>> can conflict with this consensus. > >>>>>>>>>> 4. Update the docs on incubator.apache.org to guide how to > describe > >>>>>>>>>> podling's incubating status on the GitHub repo (namely, > including > >>>>>>>>>> "incubating" in the repo description and README, point to the > >>>>>> DISCLAIMER > >>>>>>>>>> content). > >>>>>>>>>> [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread/kxvdkrf8g8yr6hww1n08r21xdy67y4ok > >>>>>>>>>> +1 allow podling's GitHub repo to have a name without the > incubator- > >>>>>>>>>> prefix, and other items above > >>>>>>>>>> +0 do not care strongly > >>>>>>>>>> -1 disagree the proposals above, because ... > >>>>>>>>>> Please vote with your ASF ID followed by (binding) if you are a > >>>>>> member of > >>>>>>>>>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not. > >>>>>>>>>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > >>>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>>> tison. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Best Regards, > >>>>> - *Hulk Lin* > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
