@Jarek, awesome, thank you!

Summary -- this result has failed, we're calling it. I will be sending out
a new set of files shortly to vote on!

Thanks for the patience everyone.

-Elijah

On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 8:28 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is fine.
>
> The "incubating" in the name is more on the source release (archives) than
> binary artifacts. The problem with PyPI artifacts is that the name
> determines the PyPI package and that would be hell of a hassle to release
> with a different package name while incubating.
>
> With Airflow we have not done it for sure
> https://pypi.org/project/apache-airflow/1.9.0/#files -> that was one of
> the
> releases we've done (I mean the team back then - I was not around yet) -
> and we did not have "incubating" in the name.
>
> And I think it's clearly specified here
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html#pypi -> where the
> only. requirement (which I was going to check with the upcoming release ;))
> is that the DESCRIPTION of the project should contain (Incubating) - the
> name of the package is still supposed to be "apache-PROJECT".
>
> J,
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 2:35 AM Elijah ben Izzy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > @Jarek -- one question. Currently the files for the wheel don't start
> with
> > "incubating" as they match the package name `apache-burr`. Given that
> we're
> > not voting on this I think that's OK, but wanted to check in case I'm
> > missing anything here, I.E. there's a more strict requirement on all
> files.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 5:15 PM Elijah ben Izzy <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Sure -- folks feel free to keep posting feedback -- we identified
> another
> > > (surprising) issue as well. I'm setting up the build so I can do a
> > tomorrow
> > > morning proposal.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 1:57 PM Stefan Krawczyk <
> > [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> let's wait for more feedback in case there are other issues to
> address?
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 12:47 PM Elijah ben Izzy <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Ok let’s call this vote failed I’m going to do a second RC version
> > >> shortly
> > >> > after updating headings and specifying license files — hopefully
> ready
> > >> > tonight or tomorrow morning.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for checking,
> > >> > - Elijah
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 11:16 AM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I was going to take a look tomorrow (sorry for delays ...
> travels).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yep. You need to specify the licence files in pyproject.toml:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > license-files = ['LICENSE', 'NOTICE', 'DISCLAIMER']
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 8:06 PM Stefan Krawczyk <
> > >> > [email protected]
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Update: in the convenience package the LICENSE is there (in the
> > >> > metadata
> > >> > > > portion), but the DISCLAIMER and NOTICE are not. Is that okay? I
> > >> assume
> > >> > > > not? @Jarek do you have any ideas why flit would exclude these?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2025 at 10:33 AM Stefan Krawczyk <
> > >> > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache Burr 0.41.0-incubating
> > >> > > > > [ ] +0 No opinion
> > >> > > > > *[X] -1 Do not release this package because... *
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *Missing headers in source (excluding files that we cannot
> put a
> > >> > header
> > >> > > > > in):*
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > grep -rL "Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation" .
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> --exclude-dir={.git,.idea,node_modules,__pycache__,venv,target,build,py.typed}
> > >> > > > > 1.
> > >> burr/tracking/server/s3/deployment/terraform/.terraform.lock.hcl
> > >> > > > > 2. The examples in source don't have headers:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/deep-researcher/requirements.txt
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/deep-researcher/notebook.ipynb
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/streaming-fastapi/notebook.ipynb
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/multi-modal-chatbot/requirements.txt
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/multi-modal-chatbot/notebook.ipynb
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/multi-modal-chatbot/burr_demo.ipynb
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/email-assistant/requirements.txt
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./examples/email-assistant/notebook.ipynb
> > >> > > > > 3. .files in source
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./.pre-commit-config.yaml
> > >> > > > >  ./.style.yapf
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./setup.cfg
> > >> > > > > 4. Telemetry Files
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./telemetry/ui/.prettierignore
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./telemetry/ui/public/robots.txt
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ./telemetry/ui/.eslintignore
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *Convenience package issues:*
> > >> > > > > *1. *missing NOTICE & LICENSE
> > >> > > > > 2. missing examples required for UI demos to function
> > >> > > > (ModuleNotFoundError:
> > >> > > > > No module named 'burr.examples')
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Checklist for reference:
> > >> > > > > [x] Download links are valid.
> > >> > > > > [x] Checksums and signatures.
> > >> > > > > [x] LICENSE/NOTICE files exist in source
> > >> > > > > [-] LICENSE/NOTICE files exist in convenience whl  <---- this
> is
> > >> > > missing
> > >> > > > > [x] No unexpected binary files in source
> > >> > > > > [x] No unexpected binary files in convenience whl
> > >> > > > > [-] All source files have ASF headers in source
> > >> > > > > [x] Can compile from source
> > >> > > > > [x] build script recreates convenience package that was
> uploaded
> > >> (see
> > >> > > > note
> > >> > > > > below on SHAs being different)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > What I did to validate the source:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >    1. Downloaded release and checked keys
> > >> > > > >    2. Created python virtual environment and did *`pip install
> > -e
> > >> > > > >    ".[start]" (need to update instructions)*
> > >> > > > >    3. Ran `burr` to start the UI and checked the demo data
> > >> > > > >    4. Because I have an OPENAI_API_KEY I was able to run the
> > email
> > >> > > > >    assistant example from the UI and validate the UI works.
> > >> > > > >    5. Otherwise I went to the examples/hello-world-counter
> > >> > > > >    <
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/burr/blob/main/examples/hello-world-counter/application.py
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >    to verify that vanilla Burr runs
> > >> > > > >    6. I compared the convenience whls created -- the file
> > contents
> > >> > are
> > >> > > > >    identical (I pip installed *wheeldiff* and manually did
> > >> *diff)*,
> > >> > but
> > >> > > > >    due to timestamps, the SHAs are different --* something to
> > >> note in
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > >    notes*
> > >> > > > >    7. I created a new environment for the convenience package
> > and
> > >> > > > >    installed that via pip install "NAME.whl[start]" and then
> > found
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > server
> > >> > > > >    did not start.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Cheers,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Stefan
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 11:07 PM Elijah ben Izzy <
> > >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Hi all!
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> This is a call for a vote on releasing Apache Burr
> > >> 0.41.0-incubating
> > >> > > > >> Release Candidate 1.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> This release includes the following changes (see CHANGELOG
> for
> > >> > > details).
> > >> > > > >> See all commits since prior release:
> > >> > > > >> - https://github.com/apache/burr/compare/burr-0.40.2...main
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Key changes include:
> > >> > > > >> - pool-based async PG persister
> > >> > > > >> - multiple UI updates
> > >> > > > >> - Apache compatible licenses/build processes
> > >> > > > >> - bug fixes, typing, etc...
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> The artifacts for this release candidate can be found at:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/burr/0.41.0-incubating-RC1
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> The Git tag to be voted upon is: v0.41.0
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> The release hash is a95c7c3f1425db382b367b0d4f888704ea2939f9
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
> > >> > > > >> BB8B72B34AB9A664A109AA17A76CF4C80E4E5355
> > >> > > > >> The KEYS file is available at:
> > >> > > > >> https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/burr/KEYS
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Please download, verify, and test the release candidate. For
> > >> testing
> > >> > > use
> > >> > > > >> your best judgement. The following may suffice:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> 1. Build/run the UI following the instructions in
> > >> scripts/README.md
> > >> > > > >> 2. Run the tests in tests/
> > >> > > > >> 3. Import into a jupyter notebook and play around
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> The vote will run for a minimum of 72 hours.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On behalf of the Apache Burr PPMC,
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Elijah ben Izzy ([email protected])
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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