At 08:33  2/2/01 -0500, Sam Ruby wrote:
>Now it irritates me that one has to have separate database pools for
>Struts, JetSpeed, and Cocoon.  I don't honestly care how beautiful the
>internal APIs are, or compatible with some corporate strategy the solution
>is, I just want to be able to share database connections.  Is that so bad?

It's painful when the only way interaction between groups occurs is when it
is forced by some group like SUn who introduces a standard extention for it.

>Unfortunately, the last itch requires more than individual effort - it
>requires teamwork.  Making the core functionality pluggable, or wrappering
>it with a J2EE facade or a Avalon facade, or even making sure that Struts
>remains a single jar are mere technical problems.  It is the recognition
>that out there in the chaos that is open source, somebody will want to
>include more than one subproject in their workspace that I desire more
>people to see.

agreed.

>One other thing to ponder.  Sourceforge is a random collection of open
>source projects, each doing their own thing.  Some successful.  Some
>abandoned.  In Jakarta, some of us have worked hard to produce something
>different - a community centered around the building of related software.
>Perhaps we are deluding ourselves.  You tell me.

Unfortunately it has a little to do with the rate at which jakarta aquires
projects and the rate at which new standard extentions are created to fill
the "holes". We can't force projects - especially new ones - to reuse
existing codebases but overtime we should encourage it.

Cheers,

Pete

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