Hi folks.

The follow-up is even more ludicrous than the original article. Mr. Garfinkel
argues that only server-side programming can be successful, while right now Java
is coming out of age and there are good, big applications being written. Just look
at

http://www.togethersoft.com

and

http://www.merant.com/products/pvcs/

for a taste. Both Together/J and Version Manager are excellent applications in
their families, and I should say faster than C++ competitors (Rose is a hog).

And, my favourite, look at Tomcat: a Java application that serves dynamic pages as
fast as Apache serves static content.

His next assertion is that, as an interpreted language, Java does a bad job. Full
on target. Right now, Microsoft is about to change gears with C# and .NET,
switching to a bad copy of the Java Virtual Machine that interprets even Microsoft
MFCs.

His programming skills may be the root of his lack of understanding: read the
following paragraph:

> Leo Kuznetsov of Alameda, Calif., sent me an interesting
> example of the inherent inefficiencies of Java. Consider the
> case, he wrote, of appending the letters "abc" to the end of a
> string. In C++ concatenation is pretty simple -- a buffer gets
> reallocated and three characters get appended to the end of the
> string. But in Java, three StringBuffer objects and one new
> String object need to be created.
>
It would be great if someone explained this guy the difference between "mutable"
and "immutable" objects. No great innovation here: NeXT has used immutable strings
since the early '90s, with great success.

As one reader points out: "Your article is clear, concise, accurate and two years
out of date".

Un saludo,

Alex.

"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote:

> "Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote:
> >
> > I found this nice article on Salon tonight, and I wanted to share it with my
> > closest friends :)
> >
> > <http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/08/bad_java/index.html>
> >
> > For sure the guy grew up in a bad way :) Just take a look at his name, is he
> > an hybrid between Homer and Simon & Garfunkel? (Well, I can't say my name is
> > better - translated it would sound like "Peter Paul Smoking Chickens" - but
> > his sounds like "Mrs. Robinson's Donuts"...)
> >
> > I'd give him a big phat "californian" what-EVERRRRRR :) :) :)
>
> He wrote a follow-up because a few people gave him a  'what-EVERRRRR'...
>
> http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/18/java_response/index.html
>
> geir
>
> (And if "californian",  wouldn't that be 'what-EV- hey?  what happened
> to the lights? ' )
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr.                               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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