Ted Husted wrote:
> 
> Since I'm the lone wolf on this point:
> 
> <snip>
> (3.1) mailing list(s)
> jakarta-commons-general
> jakarta-commons-DBCP (database connection pool)
> jakarta-commons-sandbox (unreleased packages)
> </snip>
> 
> <insert>
> (3.1) mailing list(s)
> jakarta-commons
> </insert>

I think that I do agree with both sides : but I think that you are right
in the longer term - it will be clear as it evolves that we will need to
cut down on the noise if sub-sections get active enough. In the shorter
term, the single list will be community-building.

+1

> and how about:
> 
> 7. In general, packages should provide an interface and one or more
> implementations of that interface, or  implement another interface
> already in use.

 
> and:
> 
> 23. Like all Jakarta subprojects, we adopt the Code Conventions for the
> Java Programming Language as published by Sun. In addition, we specify
> that indentation is constructed using 4 spaces only --  no tab
> characters whatsoever.

I support the notion of standardization, but some of the Sun conventions
are just awful, particularly the bit about ending the method declaration
with a '{'

Futher, I like starting blocks with a { a la

  if( foo )
  {
    <block>
  }

I know it makes code 'big', but I personally find it easy to read, and
then if someone adds something, you don't get stuck with the bug 

  if(foo)
    bar;

going to

  if(foo)
    woogie;
    bar;

if they forget to add the braces, which can be a bear to find,
especially when groggy and tired :)

geir

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Geir Magnusson Jr.                               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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