On Sat, 5 May 2001, Jon Stevens wrote:

> on 5/5/01 9:54 AM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I think this is an important question, since the natural outcome of our
> > providing open source frameworks is that people will eventually provide
> > open source applications based on those frameworks.
> > 
> > For example, I'm launching an online auction application Sunday for a
> > public broadcasting station. My contract includes distributing the code
> > as open source. I'd love to make that source available through Jakarta.
> > If that happened, should it be jakarta-struts-gavel?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > We also have people
> > working on Struts shopping cart application which could also go this
> > route. 
> > 
> > So, I guess my only question is that if we have three or four
> > application projects in the works now, do we want to think about a
> > jakarta-app group?
> > 
> > I don't actually care myself, but I thought I should ask the question.
> 
> Na. I'm happy keeping them organized with their respective code bases. Also,
> that would bring up the question of re-organizing the Jetspeed project which
> has already been grand fathered in as a top level project.
> 
> Turbine and Struts both need as many sample applications as they can get.
> Might as well organize them closely together so that their progress can be
> carefully monitored.
> 

That seems like a pretty reasonable incubator strategy for
applications.  The application developers will have direct access to the
community that is familiar with the framework (and can positively impact
the future development of the framework).  The frameworks can use the apps
as "best practices" examples of how they should be employed.

Apps that resonate with the user community, and attract their own
communities, can graduate to being full-fledged projects.  After all, the
original reason for Ant's existence was just to build Tomcat ...

> -jon
> 

Craig


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