[ My non-voting, highly irrelevant, self-obsessed opinion follows ]
> To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for
> xml.apache.org,
Possibly, but the argument is whether or not it is a more natural fit
for Jakarta.
> XML-RPC is a protocol that has been explicitly frozen since
> 1998 or so, and
> even at that time it only used a small subset of XML. Sure,
> it has the XML
> in its name, but all it does is define a handful of elements
> to wrap some
> common data types - strings, numbers, date objects, structs
> and so on.
So it's an XML based protocol, that doesn't use all the XML
features.
That sounds much like Java programs that use JDK 1.1 ?
It doesn't have to be a "new/fresh/exciting" protocol to be
useful, and its usefulness is not decided by which project
it is in.
> XML-RPC is not about XML,
But nor is it "about" Java.
There are python versions of XML-RPC, etc.
What is it about Helma XML-RPC that makes it a project about
java?
> So why Jakarta? One area is HTTP support - XML-RPC works over
> HTTP,
I don't follow.
Lots of things work over HTTP.
Jakarta != HTTP
httpd.apache.org is all about http, but I don't think that was
your argument.
> Of course, development can take place anywhere. I just don't
> see how XML-RPC would fit into the Apache XML project.
That being true, I think the problem is that Sam et al., don't
see how it fits into Jakarta any more closely.
Honest question:
* What does Helma XML-RPC have to do with Java?
Is it just that it is written in Java?
If so, then what would happen if it was written in C++?
There is no cpp.apache.org, so it would either go into
Apache xml, or not be part of apache at all.
Would Apache be interested in this if it was written
in C++?
I guess Jason probably wouldn't, since he's using it in
a java project, but if Apache would host a C++ based
XML-RPC project (and I contend that it would), then
the language issue is irrelevant.
If either:
* The project is only interesting to Apache because it
is java based,
or
* The project has some Java integration that goes beyond
simply being implemented in java,
then it may well be suitable for Jakarta.
But (IMHO) it ultimately comes down to this:
* What's the useful feature of Helma XML-RPC?
Is it that it's written in Java?
Or that it implements XML-RPC?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
