Hi, On Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:44, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: > I'm a loss to understand the problem. People assert that projects are > out of scope yet also assert how much they like them. Is it not better > to generate good code that lots of people use than to nitpick about > staying in scope? If Jakarta is home to a bunch of projects that people > think are crap then that's a problem. The ability to manage the collection > of projects and whether projects meet a high standard of quality is much > more of an issue than whether projects are in scope. If it becomes too > difficult to manage the collection of projects, then we split off another > Apache subproject. Heres my (somewhat unpopular it seems) opinion. If it is high quality, has a good (apache-ish) community, is (mostly) written in java and they want to become involved in Apache ... then +10000 ;) I would have no problem with a Jakarta-forge style setup - as long as the projects satisfied the above conditions before being "published" under Apache name. Basically I see the main question is potential for success and community. If those two are available (even if it is not currently the most high quality product) then Apache as a whole will benefit. Ages ago I heard someone mention the phrase "A brave jakarta world", obviously a play on "a brave GNU world" and kinda indicative of how I think apache/jakarta should go. However instead of a political organization I think Apache should endorse project for technical qualitys. So jakarta could be THE place where quality java free software/opensource is available. I think this will happen just as a natural consequence of our evolution. Ages ago, last time round I posted a bunch of projects that I think it would benefit Apache to have under it's wings. Some of them (Lucene and BSF) are in the process of arriving. Others don't "qualify" (dnsjava while a high quality java project only has one developer ;/) and others no one has pursued (ie openejb or virtually any of the exolab projects). I think growth is inevitable and beneficial (as long as we maintain our standards). BTW +1 to bringing NetComponents here if thats what you decide ... ;) Cheers, Pete *-----------------------------------------------------* | "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind, | | and proving that there is no need to do so - almost | | everyone gets busy on the proof." | | - John Kenneth Galbraith | *-----------------------------------------------------* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
