I would say that the only the scope that matters is whether the product will be supported by an Apache meritocracy. Everything else is a decision we, or the Board, can make by fiat. The real problem with Hypersonic was that the team didn't seem interested in meritocratic development. I don't believe that we should lobby people to change their development style. If they can't see it for themselves, then we will just have to wait until they do. (Jakarta != cult.) By now, our products should be the proof. I don't think we can bootstrap an Apache product by chatting about it. Someone with vision and the wherewithal to do the work ~and~ build a community, has to bring something to the table. Something that they would do here, or anywhere, just to have it done -- with or without our help. Someone has to have the itch before we can help them scratch. An Apache Roundtable should not create search committees. Those who wish to join us should come here and join us. Otherwise, in their hearts, they will never truly belong. -Ted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
