Hey, don't take me wrong here .... :-)

I just jumped in because I saw some post on this newsgroup saying that you
wanted to homogeneise mailing lists ... I probably misunderstood the intent
which was maybe only to standardise on the mailing-list names (or rather to
align with the existing standard :)) ...

Ok for doing the website but I would have preferred someone who has already
done it and has everything set up on his machine (I don't and will have to
learn the mechanism before so it'll take a some time). To summarise, there
are 2 things to correct: remove the "doc" mailing list and correct the
commons one.

Regarding your "quote", I looked for it in my emails ... and couldn't find
it ... :) I guess I dreamed it ... So I apologise and I owe you a beer. Tell
me when you are in London and we'll go to the pub someday :-)

Have a goo weekend
Cheers,
-Vincent

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: lists that don't require subscriber approval


> "Vincent Massol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've had a look at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html ...
> >
> > Here are the strange things I found :
> > * Alexandria : no user list (Pier I thought you said ALL projects had
both
> > lists ;-) )
>
> I thought doesn't work... Give me a quote of me saying that, and I'll owe
> you a beer...
>
> > * Avalon : no user list and a strange cvs list (I thought all CVS
messages
> > went to the devlist ?)
>
> Depends on the project...
>
> > * Commons : information not updated
>
> Do it :) I manage EZMLM, someone please kick some code in the website...
>
> > * Jakarta documentation : only a docs@ : no user and dev and a cvs list
...
>
> In fact there was no traffic... I deleted that mailing list yesterday
since
> noone complained...
>
> > * Log4j : a cvs list
>
> They have a CVS list, so what? APR, HTTPD, and many others have a -cvs
list.
> Some of the Jakarta project decided to collapse it with the -dev... Some
> didn't...
>
> > * Velocity a TDK list : Question : do we say that -user and -dev lists
are
> > mandatory and projects are allowed to create additional lists ?
>
> Their list is velocity-tdk-dev... So, (kudos to Jon)
> project-subproject-identifier, in line with our guidelines... As CVS
> trees... Jakarta-project-subproject-subsubproject....
>
> > * Watchdog : no user list
>
> So?
>
> > In summary, there is still some work to be done to homogeneize lists ...
:)
>
> No, there's no work to be done... Apart from a website fix (and I am NOT
> going to do that... Someone else please volunteer): removing docs and
> modifying commons.
>
> If a project don't wont a -user list because they don't feel like having
> reached that point where users do bother on the developer list, I'm not
> going to force them to have one. If a project wants a CVS list because
they
> don't want all -dev traffic mixed with it, that's FINE... As long as we
> agree on the basic naming scheme, I'm fine...
>
> > Who takes charge of changing this ?
>
> You :) At least for the website part... Nothing else need to be done...
>
>     Pier
>
>
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