Sigh. 8^) And this is only one aspect of My Services. I would not bet on seeing Trintech PayWare eIssuer (as it is currently named) in OS form anytime soon. 8^( eIssuer is a big win for Trintech, as it integrates nicely into all their back end systems, where the big lump sum money is. But they have not yet understood the advantage an OS version would be at the upper management level, because an OS version would not be a revenue source (even though it might just be a true Passport wallet killer).
Trintech is a good example of the thinking in the online transaction industry. Security, customer control, and getting a slice of the pie a la AmEx transaction fees are the guiding principles. OS doesn't do well here, except to be exploited. It's no surprise that .NET is M$'s first public foray into openness. But it's all about a special kind of open source, where you organize a community to make money for M$ without being paid. One could also argue that that's what the JCP really is for Sun. 8^) Want to bet we're going to see some kind of Passport wallet transaction fee somewhere in the future? That's money that would flow directly to M$ since they plan to control the transaction gateway to the back end (where the CC companies and banks are). Same with anyone else's system currently. They all think that's where the next new revenue is for them. The staging will mirror that of ATM transaction fees, free for awhile, but only until everyone is sucked into using it. I think it would be easier to get a set of transaction gateway standards that would allow any compliant ewallet to play, though it's hard to get around the qualification testing. The mindset of the CC industry has to change before anything can happen. So I guess the real answer is, it depends on how good we are as evangelists over several generations. 8^) Otherwise OS can only be burned badly by playing this game, IMO. Chuck On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 01:57 PM, James Strachan wrote: > Any plans to do an open source Java implementation of it? :) > > Then we could do an open alternative to My Services. 'Open Services' > anyone? > :) > > James > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Murcko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers > > > We did, several years ago, at Trintech, for Visa, Mastercard, and Amex. > They all use it. I think Brother International just adopted it. It even > worked over WAP. 8^) > > But it is not getting all the hoopla that Passport is getting. And it > was meant for users to select as a choice, from a website, not to be > supplied to them as the default/only thing they can use. > > Chuck > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 06:39 AM, Endre St�lsvik wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro wrote: >> >> | Paying for an online agenda? document storage? e-wallet? This looks >> like the >> | e-commerce flop on steroids. >> >> This is the stuff that will succeed: >> Microsoft Passport. Mix in Activation Code. Then pay for My Services. >> And find yourself placed firmly within "MS World" with no other >> options. >> >> - Be afraid. Be very afraid! >> >> In my opinion, the net does need some kind of ewallet stuff. It's just >> that M$ is the last company in the world that should own it. Why hasn't >> VISA and MasterCard and the like done this stuff ages ago? >> >> >> -- >> Mvh, >> Endre >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> Chuck Murcko Topsail Group http://www.topsail.org/ > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
