> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter
>
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> It is indeed a great idea. However, the two editors given credit at the
> bottom of the url you posted are Sun employee's who get paid to do the job
> so they don't really count as 'volunteers'.
The example given was just through a google search on "newsletter
site:netbeans.org" and not much thought was given to the contents (although
the fact that it mentions Ant is nice). The point of this is that I really
hadn't noticed that te editors were sun employees and I certainly got the
impression that more recent editors have been volunteers in a truer sense -
perhaps I have been nieve :( . In the mean time I'll look into the RSS
agregator approach and "Reptile" (will investigate in the morning).
Otherwise; point taken - doing is a damn site better than talking - I guess
I may take this over to ant-dev (ie where I may be able to do a half decent
job) and try it on a smaller scale to see how well it goes down to begin
with and expand later...
>
> The Jakarta project has plenty of great minds and thus great
> ideas. What we
> are lacking is great volunteers. Everyone is too busy bitching
> about what an
> asshole I am.
>
> So, my suggestion is that if you would like to see this done, you start
> working on it yourself...not worrying about how bad an editor you
> are...and
> just post *something*. That will encourage others to help you edit and
> create it (it is hard to complain about something without helping out).
> Discussing how things should be done won't get you anywhere.
>
> This is the same tactic that I used when I created Anakia [1] which is now
> used to create most of the Jakarta websites as well as www.apache.org and
> httpd.apache.org. It isn't the most perfect tool [2], but it does the job
> well, people adopted it quickly and the bitching about Styleweb (the
> previous tool) stopped.
>
> thanks!
>
> -jon
>
> [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/anakia.html
> [2] http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/dvsl/
>
> --
> Standard rules apply: Ask any questions, and you get the job. ;-)
>
>
> on 12/27/01 12:32 PM, "Rob Oxspring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Apologies if this has been brought up before, but I was wondering if the
> > idea of a jakarta newsletter been discussed? As an interested user of
> > NetBeans I find their weekly newsletter
> > (http://www.netbeans.org/newsletter/2001-09-03.html) extremely
> interesting
> > and helpful as I don't have the time to monitor all of the
> separate mailing
> > lists.
> >
> > The same is certainly true at jakarta, and while I've watched and
> > occasionally taken part in discussions on ant-dev for over a year, it is
> > difficult to find time to monitor all threads in the one list
> let alone keep
> > abreast of whats going on in commons, avalon, struts, tomcat
> etc. I'm not
> > sure of the best place to send such a letter - some
> news@jakarta springs to
> > mind - but a copy on the website would also be good and the
> first issue or
> > two should probably go to all lists to grab some attention +
> volunteers. It
> > would require volunteer editors (rotating after some fixed period) and
> > presumably an editors address/list to suggest interesting
> threads to, since
> > I doubt anybody has the time to monitor all of the lists themselves.
> > Alternatively maybe a nominated (and rotating) editor per project could
> > suggest the most interesting threads each week tobe compiled
> into a single
> > letter.
> >
> > I realise that I'm probably making a rod for my own back
> suggesting this and
> > as such am happy to help in the setting up of the letter but by
> profession
> > I'm a software engineer not a journalist so would want to get others
> > interested from an early stage...
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Rob
>
>
>
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