> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] > > > On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 19:54, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it > > > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want". Can > you give me > > > a good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that > effect. It > > > just seems like we should be asking for something and being > > > specific. > > > > > > -Andy > > > > That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows > exactly what > > we want. > > > > There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes > around here > > that unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, > discussions about > > opening some of that up (including posting what we want to > the public > > site) are going on now. > > > > For starters: > I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same > license as the rest of the JDK. > > Personally I'm having a hard time getting particularly in > uproar as I think the central core of J2EE - Enterprise Java > Beans is such a poor standard, that I'm not particularly > upset that its not *free*. I should not say these things > publicly, as I still have to work in these things, but in > truth EJB and particularly Entity beans is a less that > elegant kludge. > > In truth J2EE is kind of a scam. It claims to be aiming for > compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors > play too big of a role in it. They want to have lots of room > for proprietary extensions. Its market one thing but > actually sell another. > > I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard > that achieves the goals of EJBs without being limited by its > faulty design and backward compatibility with its original > faultier design. Just my humble opinion on that.
Check out AJB in Avalon. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-apps-dev&m=101158982807771&w=2 Uses AltRMI from the Commons to achieve RMI with extending Remote or throwing remote exception. Now you can publish any class/interface remotely... Cheers, Scott -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>