On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 21:46, Peter Donald wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:58, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > For starters: > > I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same license as the > > rest of the JDK. > > I think it is - or at least it used to be? The J2EE trademark is protected as > much as the Java trademark is - in some ways less in some ways more. Ask Sun > whether you can have an opensource java impl and they will say "no because we > haven't revealed it all". The differenceis that J2EE also has significantly > more IP tied up in it that would possibly make it a difficult proposition to > cleanly rewrite - though this is the same with some parts of core java > classes (ie RMI and friends). >
>From my understanding you cannot distribute the j2ee jars and technologies. There also seems to be a strange clause that I admittedly do not understand regarding development of technologies based on. Compatibility tests are one thing. I could give a flip about branding something as J2EE as it mostly serves to confuse business people. (Do you know how to do EJB? What about J2EE?) > > In truth J2EE is kind of a scam. It claims to be aiming for > > compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors play too big > > of a role in it. They want to have lots of room for proprietary > > extensions. Its market one thing but actually sell another. > > Isn't that the best way to advance technology? Leave room for vendors to play > and when the vendors have played with a feature long enough, merge the best > ideas together and develope a spec. It was a lot worse in past but with > auxilliary APIs/JSRs like deployment and management APIs coming out. > Perhaps, the issue is how far. Up to now at least, IMHO, they've leaned more toward "please embrace and extend" and less toward standards based technologies. -Andy > -- > Cheers, > > Pete > > ------------------------------------------------------- > "I would like to take you seriously but to do so would > affront your intelligence" -William F. Buckley, JR > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- www.superlinksoftware.com www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
