> 
> Knowing my qualifications here is my response to Aaron's post whom I
have
> summarized with this one line from him;
> "No matter what you try to do with EJB, I can provide a simpler,
faster,
> more scalable, and cheaper solution."
> 

I was obviously overstating the matter.  I guess I had too much wine.
Ok. Let's be fair, 98% of what most people need from an appserver can be
done in other ways. 

I think that comment was actually in reference to the specific features
listed as beneficial about EJB. ?

> Wow, you should start your own company. Your obviously much smarter
than
> the
> 100 or so developers that make Weblogic or the 50 or so that make
JBoss,
> or
> the ? 100 ? or so that make Websphere, etc. 

Not arguing with you here.  (These discussion just provoke stupid
comments like that.)

You can make a Java Bean
> container that can handle 

>clustering, 

Oh ya, weblogic clustering is so nice.  You have to practically take
down the entire cluster in 6.0 to update.   

>fail over,

Got what I need in a load balancer and in JCS.  There are some
transactional failover features in appservers that are nice though.

> caching,

Got it: JCS

> persistence,

Got it: JDBC

> transactional services, 

Got what I need in the JDBC.

> security, etc. 

Got it:  RBAC 

>better than all those people? 

Most of this can be done fairly simply and most people just don't need
what the appserver vendors are selling.

If you had said 2 phase commit, then I'd make concessions.  

>Wow,
> your the man. 

Thanks.

>If I could create a product by myself better than all those
> people and create a billion dollar company I would. Seems stupid not
to?
> Kind of strange you call 'people' stupid 

Just to be clear.  I never called anyone stupid.  I never used the word.
That was in the subject line that I replied to.  I didn't notice it till
someone else replied.  I would have taken it out. (as I just did.)

and claim you can do better than
> these teams at creating this monumental amount of complex code

No.  I use a good amount of clear code.

 yet you
> don't
> do it, even though it could bring you great wealth? Ok then, how about
> open
> source?  

Oh, I am a contributor to a couple of Jakarta projects but have no
intension of building an appserver.

Cheers,

Aaron



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