Let's see: Microsoft is going to be a better deal in terms of open code 
than Sun Microsystems?  Hmmm?  Guess I must have missed the banana boat on 
this one.

I guess since I am fed up because Sun won't let me have free rein with 
their code, I should ballyhoo C#, which will be 100 times more 
restrictive.  Yah, that's the ticket.  Why don't we get a dialogue going on 
why Sun is doing what it is doing and work towards solving the problem 
rather than supporting Mickey Mouse who would trade us for a pad of butter, 
if it were not for Sun's competition looming in the background.

Micael

At 07:12 PM 2/25/02 +1100, you wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:29, Colin Chalmers wrote:
> > It's good to know your enemy but lets not talk Java into it's grave. Just
> > because MickySoft comes out with something to compete against Java people
> > seem to be taking fright and already talking about ditching Java for C#
> > thereby playing into Mickys hand. Has Micky got so powerful???
>
>"mickysoft" ? Hmmm ...
>
>The Java people are not running scared - however many are fed up with the
>steward of Java. There is plenty of people who would be willing to do a lot
>to make java a betweer platform but due to licensing restraints can not.
>
>Theres plenty of crap features in java that could be easily fixed given an
>open platform but wont be because it is not.
>
> > Let's look on it positively, a bit of competition for Java/Sun is perhaps
> > no bad thing in itself :-) But already to be thinking about swinging to C#
> > is a bit premature don't you think?
>
>Whos thinking? Of the two Apache projects that I am most involved with - both
>already have C# ports of parts or all of them. There is ongoing porting of
>other parts of these projects aswell.  There is also external ports of other
>projects I rely upon (namely a net port of junit). When the time comes when I
>am forced to switch then it will be easy enough to do.
>
>I don't plan to ditch java just yet. JDK1.5 will contain enough improvements
>in the core framework that it will be "good enough" for almost all my needs.
>However thats a long way off - if the mono team or one of the other
>opensource C# clones were to get hald as good as java is now then I would
>definetly consider switchin - and I know a lot of other people who would also
>do so.
>
>Its about putting control back into the developers hands and all really
>depends on the way Sun handles it from here on in.
>
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>Cheers,
>
>Pete
>
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>                 -- Voltaire
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