At 09:50 23.03.2002 -0500, you wrote:
>On 3/22/02 12:19 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > A thought struck me today which is probably totally obvious to folk but I
> > thought I'd share it anyways. Sun gets pots of cash from companies who
> > develop J2EE compliant software from the J2EE license fees. So its in Sun's
> > interest to protect the BEA's, IBM's and their own J2EE products. The money
> > they get is based on revenue of the company (so thats quite a lot of money
> > from BEA & IBM).
> >
> > The money-men at Sun probably see open source J2EE solutions as lost 
> revenue
> > to possible commercial J2EE solutions so when folks like JBoss come along
> > they see it as in Sun's interest to not certify them to protect their J2EE
> > licence revenue nest egg.
> >
> > Though with the .NET competition now I think its in their interest to
> > protect their J2EE market place by allowing open source solutions; 
> otherwise
> > long term folks will just move away from J2EE.
>
>I think that it gets even worse for us - it's my understanding that since
>the J2EE licensees had to pay pots for the license,  bring open-source-able
>JSR's into that umbrella will dilute the value of the licenses they own.
>Therefore, it's conceivable that would be a motivation to oppose the opening
>of the J2EE API's.

This well may be case. It is pure speculation nonetheless. Or do you
know something I don't?

First, we don't know how much money Sun gets from licensing.

Second, the price of the license will drop if independent
implementations are allowed.  For App Servers, I think the barrier of
entry is in the difficulty implementating the spec not in the licensing.
It's going to be JBoss, Weblogic, and Webspere for a long time. As
such, BEA and IBM will be thrilled to see a lower price -- assuming the
price was high.

Again, my claims are long on speculation and short on facts.


--
Ceki

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