On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Ceki G�lc� wrote:

> I think you have done a pretty good job on the log4j wrapper. However,
> I am pretty stretched out as it is, so I can't really help with something
> I don't particularly like. Besides, if people find commons-logging really 
> useful
> they will build a community around it. What I say or think won't matter.

First, I'm not the author of log4j wrapper - it's Scott Sanders, Rod, etc.
( to give credits to who deserve :-)

And what you say, think and do does matter. 

In particular maintaining and helping with the log4j wrapper, and making 
sure commons-logging works best with log4j will help all users of 
log4j that also use components that log with commons-logging.

It may also get more people and components to use commons-logging 
API instead of logger-specific APIs - and that may mean they'll be able to 
choose the logger impl based on quality.

Costin






> 
> At 15:17 28.03.2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Ceki G�lc� wrote:
> >
> > > True. It does encourage it, but only initially. On the long run,
> > > however, people will run into problems with their logging (as is
> > > happening now). They will say this commons-logging+log4j stuff is too
> > > complicated, we'll switch to JDK 1.4 logging, at least that does not
> >
> >And you are the only one who can make commons-logging + log4j to be
> >the best solution on the long run.
> >
> >By implementing and maintaining the log4j implementation of
> >commons-logging.
> >
> >The API is a subset of log4j, and if you really want to help the users
> >all you have to do is take ownership of a log4j implementation of
> >commons-logging.
> >
> >It doesn't even have to be included in commons-logging, it is
> >better if each log4j impl. had it's own implementation of the wrapper,
> >possibly taking advantage of new features, etc.
> >
> >Costin
> 
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