----- Original Message ----- From: "Ceki G�lc�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Comments on the commons-logging API
> At 15:30 28.03.2002 -0600, Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > >I am pro-Log4J. I wish I lived in that Log4J-only world (until/unless > >something better came along). Generally, commons-logging neither encourages > >nor discourages use of Log4J. However, I would argue that it _does_ > >encourage Log4J a bit by not forcing a logging implementation war. > > True. It does encourage it, but only initially. On the long run, > however, people will run into problems with their logging (as is > happening now). They will say this commons-logging+log4j stuff is too > complicated, we'll switch to JDK 1.4 logging, at least that does not > have any CLASSPATH problems. I'm not convinced. These sound like minor, temporary issues, not showstoppers. Classpaths do get a little complicated, but it's only one additional JAR. > >The fact is, JDK 1.4 logging in particular is going to become more and more > >common over time, and unless someone can summon forth a magic recantation of > >that JSR, then a component-level interface with popular loggers is > >necessary. Otherwise you have to pick, which only services us at the > >expense of those who use other logger implementations. > > Possible but I would not be that sure. We will have very strong new > features in log4j 1.3 (the release after 1.2) which will leave JDK 1.4 > logging even further behind. Just as importantly, log4j documentation > is going to get a massive boost with the upcoming log4j book. I hope you're right. Log4J is a great tool. Still, you cannot dictate preference. > Sun's me-too strategy is bound to fail. The question is whether the > bigger jakarta community is going to help us defeat JSR47 or stand in > the way. That's a bit harsh, isn't it? - Morgan > -- > Ceki _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
