Jon Stevens wrote:
>
> I listen to the following:
>
>    Code.
>    Patches.
>    Real suggestions for improvement.
>    Intelligent discussion.
>
> I don't listen to the following:
>
>    Flame wars about technologies used.
>    Whiny people who can't learn a new technology.
>    Whiny people who only use 'standards'.
>    People who are clearly without a clue.
>    Hypocrites.
>
> My original posting was simply trying to encourage people to adopt Maven
> because I think it is a cool technology that can save hundreds of hours of
> development time and headaches.

+1

> It can help unify us...

Bzzzzt.  Sorry, thanks for playing.  As you exit, make sure you pick up the
lovely parting gifts.

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Narrator voice over: previously on this thread there was an abbreviated
history of Maven.  Here is a more complete version.  It all started when
the author of this page: <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html>
ignored a -1 of mine.  Gump was born.  It was a good idea with a ugly nasty
hack of an implementation.  Several attempts to replace it were made.  My
only request: lets agree on a common project description.  One of the more
promising efforts was Maven.  That author chose to rewrote all of the gump
descriptions to make projects subordinate to modules, then proceeded to
criticize that approach, remove Maven from Alexandria, and stop responding
to nags.

Recently the original author of Gump renewed his request for a common
project definition. The request is simple: have a core set of elements that
all tools must support, and then provide an extensibility mechanism
(perhaps through namespaces) which enables tools specific data to be added.
His experience suggests that the Krysalis, Centipede, and Forrest have been
very accommodating, so the ideal situation would be for an active developer
on Maven to step forward.

It goes without saying that this definition should neither presume nor
preclude any technology beyond an XML parser.

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So, who wants to be the next contestant?

- Sam Ruby


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