My real question here is just "Whether the logo is legally a problem", 
I'm not a lawyer, have never been one and
don't play one on TV even.  If its not then it won't be an option for 
the committer vote.  If it is, then it will
be an option (and the winning user voted logo).  I'd like to know from a 
lawyer though, not from a lay opinion.
Refactoring the logo at this point wouldn't be fair I don't think.  

-Andy


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>Just my opinion,
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>I'd ask if the contributor could remove the "diamond" look so that it
>looks more like steam and less like the Windows "flag", then see if we
>need to run it by counsel. The cup part seems like a stretch to me too,
>since it is a very different looking cup. But the diamond pattern does
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>>Hi All,
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>>The committers are about to be asked to vote on the new POI logo.  While
>>the recent user logo poll was not binding (as only committer votes are
>>binding), I expect the majority of committers may cast their vote
>>democratically.
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>>Unfortunately, the logo that has won the poll is controversial.  Had I
>>seen the Windows XP logo (I use Linux and sometimes w2k due to
>>work/cross browser testing, but I always shower afterwards), I probably
>>would have nixed this one.  However, my opinion is but that of a lay
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>> From my understanding the foundation employs council that is available,
>>however not being a member of the foundation, I'd like to solicit the
>>assistance of a foundation member to bring this issue to the foundation
>>or said legal council.
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>>I've been told that the logo is potentially a problem:
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>>a. because it looks too much like the windows xp logo
>>b. because it employs a coffee cup (which I think is unlikely) and
>>therefore would peeve sun too.
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>>I'd like to ask the legal reprentative to look at:
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>>http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/news/images/logoRaPiGmbH8.png
>>results: http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/640946
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>>and tell us whether this logo is likely a trademark infringement on
>>either issue.
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>>In the event it is, we'll not submit it to the POI committers as a
>>candidate.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Andy
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