Suggestion :
Write (ehh mail) the legal departments of sun and microsoft and ask if
they would allow such a logo. If they agree (on paper preferably..), you
can used the best logo.. (at least based on the current vote).. 

Mvgr,
Martin

On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 13:51, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> My real question here is just "Whether the logo is legally a problem", 
> I'm not a lawyer, have never been one and
> don't play one on TV even.  If its not then it won't be an option for 
> the committer vote.  If it is, then it will
> be an option (and the winning user voted logo).  I'd like to know from a 
> lawyer though, not from a lay opinion.
> Refactoring the logo at this point wouldn't be fair I don't think.  
> 
> -Andy
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> > I think that if you were trying create a fantasy world where Microsoft and
> >Sun were to merge then this would be the logo to pick, otherwise it is to
> >close for comfort for either of them I believe.
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> >Just my opinion,
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> >I'd ask if the contributor could remove the "diamond" look so that it
> >looks more like steam and less like the Windows "flag", then see if we
> >need to run it by counsel. The cup part seems like a stretch to me too,
> >since it is a very different looking cup. But the diamond pattern does
> >seem a bit too close for comfort.
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> >"Andrew C. Oliver" wrote:
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> >>Hi All,
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> >>The committers are about to be asked to vote on the new POI logo.  While
> >>the recent user logo poll was not binding (as only committer votes are
> >>binding), I expect the majority of committers may cast their vote
> >>democratically.
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> >>Unfortunately, the logo that has won the poll is controversial.  Had I
> >>seen the Windows XP logo (I use Linux and sometimes w2k due to
> >>work/cross browser testing, but I always shower afterwards), I probably
> >>would have nixed this one.  However, my opinion is but that of a lay
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> >person.
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> >> From my understanding the foundation employs council that is available,
> >>however not being a member of the foundation, I'd like to solicit the
> >>assistance of a foundation member to bring this issue to the foundation
> >>or said legal council.
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> >>I've been told that the logo is potentially a problem:
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> >>a. because it looks too much like the windows xp logo
> >>b. because it employs a coffee cup (which I think is unlikely) and
> >>therefore would peeve sun too.
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> >>I'd like to ask the legal reprentative to look at:
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> >>http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/news/images/logoRaPiGmbH8.png
> >>results: http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/640946
> >>
> >>and tell us whether this logo is likely a trademark infringement on
> >>either issue.
> >>
> >>In the event it is, we'll not submit it to the POI committers as a
> >>candidate.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
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> >>Andy
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