While I think there are places that struts could learn a lot from
turbine...  Struts has a bit more "design cohesion" shall we say?  Where
turbine is a bit more....organic in places.  

The nice thing about Turbine is that it does favor containment over
inheritance, same thing with Struts (not necessarily so with Avalon +
friends).  The bad thing is that Turbine is all things to all people in
some ways..  

I think I kinda like Turbine better than Struts...but the verdict isn't
out yet.  (Bias:  I think JSP sucks equine hybrid reproductive
organs..correction...I think that about ASP... JSP I think of as ASP
with its father run off ;-) )

-Andy

On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 16:12, James Taylor wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-10-05 at 19:36, John McNally wrote:
> > This is not really the correct place, but a short answer is struts is
> > jsp-centric while turbine attempts to be neutral on the actual
> > templating mechanism.  Given that most jsp developers gravitate to
> > struts means you get the best support if using velocity within turbine. 
> > Struts most certainly has more users, but the turbine developer
> > community is healthy.  I'm pretty sure both will survive.
> 
> Healthy as in active, but not always mentally healthy. You will
> occasionally hear turbine developers muttering things like "the next
> version will support the struts action resolution mechanism" or "we need
> to support JSP as a first class templating option". It is at that point
> that you should run away.
> 
> > 
> > john mcnally
> > 
> > On Sat, 2002-10-05 at 11:08, Dominic Gagne wrote:
> > > I hope I'm asking the right mailing list ...  I'd like to know the
> > > differences between Struts and Turbine project. I'm currently using Turbine
> > > framework to build a web application and I see that Struts could offer me
> > > the same kind of solution, am I right ? I would also like to know which
> > > project in moving faster and has more chance the stay alive ?
> 
> 
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