On Friday 25 October 2002 08:30 pm, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 2002/10/25 5:16 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wish we did have something that supported a non-crappy interface like
> > EOB (eob.sourceforge.net)
>
> Stuff like this reminds me of Velocity vs. JSP argument.
>
> People realize that EJB sucks ass, so they develop something that is simple
> to use and implement and makes some real sense...while the whole time, we
> have Sun pushing their J2EE crap down our throats.
>

Sun has a lot of trouble backing away from the 1.0 decisions they make, even 
when they turn out to be wrong. MSFT does a bit better by renaming the 
technology and walking away from the old one. c.v. DCOM -> MTS -> .NET

Still, container based declarative transactional components are a nice idea. 
Writing data non-transactionally will eventually get you into trouble. 
Reading isn't the same problem. And being able to join many components into a 
single transaction without advance planning make a lot of deep problems 
rather simple.

But the notion that a database row is a good remote object, even without the 
overhead of transactionality, is just BAD.

> Maybe once Sun's stock price dips below 1.0 will they wake up...
>

Nah, I'm sure CA would acquire it then, and then there'd be boardroom pressure 
to use it as the solution to everything.



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